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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN
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      because spicework is famous only to IT people not to everybody

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      • IT-ADMINI
        IT-ADMIN
        last edited by IT-ADMIN

        recently ads become a synonym of malwares, they've got a bad reputation to IT and non IT people 😞

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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          @IT-ADMIN said:

          there is a big difference between ads on external website and ads running on a monitoring tool that can scan your whole local network.

          No, there is not. You are looking at a website, NOT the monitoring tool itself. It's just a website pulling the ads from the web like any other.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            non IT people when they see something that is inside the network and further more running on a local server, they will automatically think that this monitoring tool scan the network and maybe send your private network information to external parties, especially if they never heard of spicework

            It does send private information out, but that has nothing to do with the ads. The ads are just ads.

            This is no different than seeing ads on Facebook or any other website that someone views at work. Do they feel that those ads are "inside the network?"

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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              @IT-ADMIN said:

              because spicework is famous only to IT people not to everybody

              I don't think that that is a factor here. This is just ads. If you don't know Spiceworks at all, you would just think that it is a webpage like any other. It is only by knowing too much about Spiceworks that people begin to add in assumptions that are not true.

              Show Spiceworks and Facebook or Infoworld side by side. Both are webpages in a browser, both have ads.

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              • IT-ADMINI
                IT-ADMIN
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                This is no different than seeing ads on Facebook or any other website that someone views at work. Do they feel that those ads are "inside the network?"

                but facebook is running outside my local network, it is a server somewhere in US i don't care but spicework would be a local server, did you understand what i mean
                the fact that i have ads on my server, this shows that i'm exposed to the internet
                running something locally is not supposed to retrieve any ads from the internet, this is my point

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
                  last edited by

                  you can't compare facebook which is running on an external server with spicework which is a monitoring tool running locally

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN
                    last edited by

                    when you run something locally you want to feel secure, and the security to us is being not exposed to the internet, but when we have ads that mean we are exposed to the internet (retrieving ads from internet) this give us the impression that my server is exposed to the internet

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      you can't compare facebook which is running on an external server with spicework which is a monitoring tool running locally

                      But the ads are not local, the ads are just from the website, not from the monitoring tool or internal. The Spiceworks interface is just a normal webpage.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        the fact that i have ads on my server, this shows that i'm exposed to the internet

                        Ah, this is the issue here. There are no ads on the server. The server isn't showing any ads. Your web browser is looking at the public website spiceworks.com for the ads. The server is not involved here.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          Keep in mind that the ads pay for Spiceworks, you can opt to pay for Spiceworks via the "MyWay" program and have the ads turned off.

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
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                            dear scott did you tried nagios before ?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              dear scott did you tried nagios before ?

                              Yes, although not very much. It is very complicated but very powerful. Before looking at Nagios I would check out Zabbix. Zabbix tends to be much more preferred by people in the SMB market.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by Dashrender

                                It took a while, But I think you two finally landed on the same page.

                                Spiceworks gets it's revenue from selling your data to vendors and showing vendor ads to you.

                                But I do agree that some manager who might be given access to SpiceWorks might think that their server is the one serving up these ads, or that their data is sitting on someone else's server and that server is serving up ads to them, neither case is desirable.

                                But as more and more things go cloud/hosted based, the potential for others to read/use/etc our data to their own means (take Google and email for example).

                                I'm not saying it's good or bad, just the trade off you pay for free software.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  Not that Nagios isn't great, Nagios, Zabbix and Zenoss are all good options.

                                  If you want to investigate, @Lakshmana has recently implemented a working Zabbix system. He could give you a tour of what he has done and could even help you implement it. I know that he is recently out of work (quit a terrible job) and would love if you were able to hire him for a few days to do a Zabbix project for you 🙂

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                                  • IT-ADMINI
                                    IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    Lol
                                    It looks like I will follow the same decision as him soon

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      It's a nice tool. Not as pretty as Spiceworks, but scales really well. It is more monitoring rather than discovery. A big piece of SW is that it does network discovery in a rather unique way. Both makes it very useful and very intensive.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        It's a nice tool. Not as pretty as Spiceworks, but scales really well. It is more monitoring rather than discovery. A big piece of SW is that it does network discovery in a rather unique way. Both makes it very useful and very intensive.

                                        Spiceworks network monitoring is a separate tool from the scanner.

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                                          Jason Banned @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          non IT manager who consider those ads as malwares and know nothing about spicework,

                                          Why would anyone outside of IT care about this? This is IT's decision.

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                                            Jason Banned @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said:

                                            Spiceworks network monitoring is a separate tool from the scanner.

                                            And a bit of a resource hog. Opmanager is totally worth the money over it.

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