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    Help choosing replacement Hyper-V host machines and connected storage

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    • AVI-NetworkGuyA
      AVI-NetworkGuy
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      You should look into the solutions from Scale. It's pretty much exactly what you want without the complexity.

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        JohnFromSTL @dafyre
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        @dafyre said:

        What are you doing for storage for your VMs now?

        {Correction made 19 OCT -- I referenced wrong server.} I'm using local storage from two Dell R900 servers. Host01 only has 865GB available for VMs, while Host02 has 2,786GB available.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen Banned
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          You said you have budget restrictions... how bad are they?

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            JohnFromSTL @AVI-NetworkGuy
            last edited by

            @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

            You should look into the solutions from Scale. It's pretty much exactly what you want without the complexity.

            I'm not familiar with them. Can you provide some details?

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
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              I'd definitely recommend reaching out to the Scale Computing guys (are there any on here?) here or either on SW. For information about pricing. It would be new kit and would last you several years. I think they can do 2 node setups as well.

              (www.scalecomputing.com)

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                JohnFromSTL @Minion Queen
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                @Minion-Queen said:

                You said you have budget restrictions... how bad are they?

                That's the fun part; I'm not given a true budget, but knowing how tight the pursestrings are $12-13k would be the max.

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                  JohnFromSTL @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said:

                  I'd definitely recommend reaching out to the Scale Computing guys (are there any on here?) here or either on SW. For information about pricing. It would be new kit and would last you several years. I think they can do 2 node setups as well.

                  (www.scalecomputing.com)

                  Thanks, I'll check them out.

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                  • Minion QueenM
                    Minion Queen Banned
                    last edited by

                    NTG can help with the Scale questions so ask away!

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                    • Minion QueenM
                      Minion Queen Banned
                      last edited by

                      Secondary suggestion if Scale isn't what you need is Xbyte: @ryan-from-xbyte and @LEzell can help ask questions for Xbyte.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
                        last edited by

                        That's right! I forgot you guys are Scale partners (that the right word?) now!

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                        • Minion QueenM
                          Minion Queen Banned
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                          Yup we are. We well I guess, I am still learning about them. But I know @scottalanmiller knows a ton and @art_of_shred does as well.

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                          • StrongBadS
                            StrongBad @AVI-NetworkGuy
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                            @AVI-NetworkGuy said:

                            You should look into the solutions from Scale. It's pretty much exactly what you want without the complexity.

                            I was literally on the phone with Scale when this thread popped up. Pinging them back now.

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                              JohnFromSTL @Minion Queen
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                              @Minion-Queen said:

                              NTG can help with the Scale questions so ask away!

                              Any idea on starting price?

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                              • Minion QueenM
                                Minion Queen Banned
                                last edited by

                                Again I am learning still 🙂 but I think we will get a few Scale people in here answering questions for ya soon.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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                                  @JohnFromSTL said:

                                  • Replication between servers in the event of host server failure
                                  • Load Balancing
                                  • Storage
                                    • Hyper-V client machines (12TB - 14TB)

                                  As far as connectivity is concerned I would probably use 10GbE between the Hyper-V host servers and the storage.

                                  With only two nodes, shared storage should not come up as an option. There is both no way to afford it and it would defeat any value in having two of these nodes. Your budget doesn't allow for this option. The starting point for something like that would be an EMC VNX to be reliable enough to even slightly consider having two nodes.

                                  As I see it, your choices are going down to a single server or going to two servers and using replicated local storage. Even that will be tough, but external shared storage both doesn't meet your goals not fit in your budget.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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                                    @JohnFromSTL said:

                                    Due to our size and budget constraints we purchase refurbished equipment, which are typically 2-3 years old. Whichever solution I end up with needs to last 3-4 additional years.

                                    Refurb is good. @xByteSean is around to help out with that. As is @ryan-from-xbyte

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      Dell PowerEdge R910 are monster servers but lack a lot of storage options. How is your CPU utilization? That is going to be the killer as those are quad processor systems. So even though they are two generations old, they are twice the size of normal servers. You are going to be looking at the Dell R730xd loaded to get the storage and the CPU that you need to come in around where you were before. That's not going to be possible, I don't think, in your price envelope.

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                                      • Minion QueenM
                                        Minion Queen Banned
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                                        Xbyte has a lot of great options for you and some great warranties to go with them.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
                                          last edited by

                                          @JohnFromSTL said:

                                          @Minion-Queen said:

                                          NTG can help with the Scale questions so ask away!

                                          Any idea on starting price?

                                          Did I miss your total memory needs? How much memory are you using added all up?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JohnFromSTL
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                                            @JohnFromSTL said:

                                            That's the fun part; I'm not given a true budget, but knowing how tight the pursestrings are $12-13k would be the max.

                                            Total, for two compute nodes and all of the storage? That's closer to the price of one node. If you wanted a SAN to handle this (you don't, but just saying) you'd be around $35K - $40K for the SAN alone.

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