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    Best Practice for Time Sync for Active Directory Domain Controllers

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      I looked at the settings in ESXi, it was not set to pull time from an external source. I have corrected that, and enabled NTP.

      ESXi is now correct on it's time, now to force the PDC emulator to sync.. and eventually all windows clients will sync as well.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        OK tried a

         w32tm /resync
        

        and got back

         The computer did not resync because no time data was available.
        
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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
          last edited by

          @Dashrender said:

          OK tried a

           w32tm /resync
          

          and got back

           The computer did not resync because no time data was available.
          

          If I remember correctly it actually uses VMWare tools to do the syncing between the computers and the hypervisor.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @coliver
            last edited by

            @coliver said:

            @Dashrender said:

            OK tried a

             w32tm /resync
            

            and got back

             The computer did not resync because no time data was available.
            

            If I remember correctly it actually uses VMWare tools to do the syncing between the computers and the hypervisor.

            It you are on VMware ESXi, then the VMware tools are the only possible mechanism for that.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              OK, I have VM Tools running - do I just wait and see?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender said:

                OK tried a

                 w32tm /resync
                

                and got back

                 The computer did not resync because no time data was available.
                

                What time source do you have set? w32tm requires an SNTP source to sync to, what SNTP server do you have it talking to?

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @Dashrender said:

                  OK tried a

                   w32tm /resync
                  

                  and got back

                   The computer did not resync because no time data was available.
                  

                  What time source do you have set? w32tm requires an SNTP source to sync to, what SNTP server do you have it talking to?

                  I don't, it's currently pulling from

                   Local CMOS Clock
                  
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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    OK, I have VM Tools running - do I just wait and see?

                    There is no sync involved. You are mixing the concepts of NTP/SNTP with a source server and actually controlling the system's clock.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Dashrender said:

                      OK tried a

                       w32tm /resync
                      

                      and got back

                       The computer did not resync because no time data was available.
                      

                      What time source do you have set? w32tm requires an SNTP source to sync to, what SNTP server do you have it talking to?

                      I don't, it's currently pulling from

                       Local CMOS Clock
                      

                      Right, which is unrelated to time syncing.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        I'm lost
                        I said I did this.

                        @Dashrender said:

                        My current PDC emulator is set to pull time from the BIOS clock

                         C:\Windows\system32>w32tm /query /source
                         Local CMOS Clock
                        

                        This hasn't been an issue for years, yet someone called this morning and reported that the phones and the computers didn't match timewise, so I'm looking into it.

                        So my PDC emulator is pulling time from CMOS. If CMOS changes, won't the OS change too?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          Shouldn't this be in IT discussions? It's technical in nature.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            I guess my desire here was to have the ESXi host be the main source for time inside my network. It of course would pull time from the internet.

                            It sounds like this isn't going to work. So instead I have to have my PDC emulator pull it's own time from the internet, and the VM Hosts will have to be managed separately.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              Here's the command to set your PDC emulator to sync with a time source

                                w32tm /config /manualpeerlist: peers /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:yes /update 
                              

                              Replace peers with your FQDN or IP of the desired time servers.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                Shouldn't this be in IT discussions? It's technical in nature.

                                Hmmm... I didn't choose the category, it just did it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  I guess my desire here was to have the ESXi host be the main source for time inside my network. It of course would pull time from the internet.

                                  It sounds like this isn't going to work. So instead I have to have my PDC emulator pull it's own time from the internet, and the VM Hosts will have to be managed separately.

                                  ESXi can pull time from the Internet. If it is correct and the DC is getting its time from the ESXi clock then the ESXi is setting the DC which, in turn, uses SNTP to talk to the rest of the network.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    Here is vmware's older paper on how they recommend that this be set up:

                                    http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/Virtualizing_Windows_Active_Directory.pdf

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      Here is a more recent one:

                                      http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/solutions/Virtualizing-Active-Directory-Domain-Services-on-VMware-vSphere.pdf

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        VMware definitely recommends that you use an external time source to control drift, not using the ESXi virtualized clock.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre
                                          last edited by

                                          I would set ESXi host to use $external_NTP... and then point the DCs to $external_NTP and then all of the clients will magically sync with DCs.

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                                          • J
                                            Jason Banned
                                            last edited by

                                            You set your PDC Emulator to pull from a reliable NTP server then the rest will sync from that ex:

                                            w32tm.exe /config /manualpeerlist:”0.us.pool.ntp.org 1.us.pool.ntp.org 2.us.pool.ntp.org 3.us.pool.ntp.org” /syncfromflags:manual /reliable:YES /update

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