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    Apple Mac OSX El Capitan Reduces Root to a Non Admin User

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      So when Root is needed, how does one get it?

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      • Deleted74295D
        Deleted74295 Banned
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        The article headline also says:
        "but the real bad news is a breaking change in legacy driver support"

        That expensive audio interface you bought a few years ago? May not run on El Capitan.

        So for studios, video production and other areas, this could be a crippling blow to Apple's creative segment.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Deleted74295
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          @Breffni-Potter said:

          The article headline also says:
          "but the real bad news is a breaking change in legacy driver support"

          That expensive audio interface you bought a few years ago? May not run on El Capitan.

          So for studios, video production and other areas, this could be a crippling blow to Apple's creative segment.

          I have a hard time feeling bad when things like this happen. Nothing lasts forever. Depending how old the legacy things are, the company should be prepared to update this equipment.

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            Jason Banned @Deleted74295
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            @Breffni-Potter said:

            That expensive audio interface you bought a few years ago? May not run on El Capitan.

            So for studios, video production and other areas, this could be a crippling blow to Apple's creative segment.

            This will have very little effect on studios, That will only be an issue for Home users and consumers.

            Studios and video production houses run very much differently than a normal business do to deadlines and most user will need to solve their own problems as quick as possible to stick to deadlines.

            Almost all studio environments are an isolated network from the internet for their creative work. They only thing on the network is the computer and some super-fast file storage and maybe a render farm depending on the size of the company. They will run the version of the OSes that the hardware they are using for that studio recommends, which I can assure you is not EL Captian. The standards for audio/video haven't changed in a very long time (HD standards came back in 1980s) so unless you have a good reason to upgrade for workflow, new features, or something breaks there isn't as much of a reason to. The creative world also tends to be a place where all artists etc will get full admin rights locally (again because of the critical deadlines with the nature of the industry) and, because this is all isolated, not dealing with any sensative data that's not really a bad practice for them(administrative people are on seperate networks without admin rights)

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            • Deleted74295D
              Deleted74295 Banned @Dashrender
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              What you are both forgetting is that the primary target of Apple's market is no longer the studio/production house, it is exactly the home user/prosumer market that they are targeting that they will hurt the most with this.

              The one man musician with his mac with a £3000 audio interface who turns out great sounding albums, the freelance photographer whose business is weddings and other events, so many solo or smaller creatives are Apple's primary user base now.

              The true creative agencies and production houses do other things yes but they are not Apple's core user group anymore.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Deleted74295
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                @Breffni-Potter said:

                What you are both forgetting is that the primary target of Apple's market is no longer the studio/production house, it is exactly the home user/prosumer market that they are targeting that they will hurt the most with this.

                The one man musician with his mac with a £3000 audio interface who turns out great sounding albums, the freelance photographer whose business is weddings and other events, so many solo or smaller creatives are Apple's primary user base now.

                The true creative agencies and production houses do other things yes but they are not Apple's core user group anymore.

                I blame those people who find themselves in this situation in the first place. They choose a closed, extremely limited ecosystem to do their business in.

                That said, I do personally feel that MS needs to do the same with Windows - they need to put up a wall and say - you shall not pass - to all of the legacy crap that keeps holding Windows down. Of course they could ease this situation by allowing a VM of a version that does allow it, but pester the heck out of the VM users with some kind of notice that they need to migrate to modern/current versions of software that support current OSs.

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                • Deleted74295D
                  Deleted74295 Banned
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                  @Dashrender said:

                  I blame those people who find themselves in this situation in the first place. They choose a closed, extremely limited ecosystem to do their business in.

                  You and I as technical people know this but Apple for "Creativity" is the same as going to University for "Careers" - It's become such an embedded thing.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco @Deleted74295
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                    @Breffni-Potter said:

                    The article headline also says:
                    "but the real bad news is a breaking change in legacy driver support"

                    That expensive audio interface you bought a few years ago? May not run on El Capitan.

                    So for studios, video production and other areas, this could be a crippling blow to Apple's creative segment.

                    Yeah, sorry... I'll never cry for someone who laid out big bucks for some proprietary interface when there are (and always have been) cross platform choices that are better, even though they aren't "pro tool certified". Cry me an overpriced, proprietary river.

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                    • Deleted74295D
                      Deleted74295 Banned
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                      True, yet when Apple makes a lot of money from the "bla certified" locked down proprietary hardware route, Watching them harm their own user base is funny.

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                        Jason Banned @Deleted74295
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                        @Breffni-Potter said:

                        What you are both forgetting is that the primary target of Apple's market is no longer the studio/production house, it is exactly the home user/prosumer market that they are targeting that they will hurt the most with this.

                        I wasn't forgetting I was just replying to you saying this will effect studios, video production houses etc.

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