Topics regarding Inverted Pyramids Of Doom
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@johnhooks said:
So they're using a DS1815+ for 3 servers to host 40 VMs. Then they say something like this..
"It also has some serious iscsi network performance issues and it seems Synology just isn't taking the business sector serious enough with their roadmap."
Wait... why would you use iSCSI... doesn't VMWare recommend NFS for shared storage?
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Indeed BOTH VMware and Synology suggest NFS!!
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Not that I am saying that shared storage is the right solution here but if you are going to do bad things you may as well do them right.
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yeah, bad setup of a bad design.
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And another...
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@scottalanmiller said:
And another...
Holy cow. SBS and Alpha Anywhere. I've never talked to anyone other than @dafyre that has used Alpha before. I can't imagine paying for their new webserver.
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And another one for the pile....
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1369163-high-available-nas-solution?source=homepage-feed
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New one. This guy is not aware of the IPOD, hopefully we can fix things before they get bad.
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1352900-synology-nas-single-lun-or-several-luns
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This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed
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@DustinB3403 said:
This seems like another one, but with enterprise grade hardware...
http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1392732-w00t-excited-for-this-project?source=homepage-feed
Ughhh... Those VNXe's suck... like really bad. I managed one at one of my old jobs and had a terrible time of it. Coincidentally that was an IPOD situation as well. Never get sales advice from your vendor.
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Why do they need a VNXe for a vSAN setup? Isn't that typically done with all of the storage directly on the host? Maybe they are using it for a backup appliance?
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Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....
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Which still doesn't make any sense, local storage > anything else (in 99% of cases)
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@DustinB3403 said:
Yeah a vSAN is virtual... so he was way over sold, unless those dell servers just can't support that much drive space....
Right... but then you would move up to the next chassis that has a ton of drive bays available. It would still be less expensive then the VNXe.
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The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.
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And moving from XenServer to VMWare.... sounds like they needed to spend their budget before the end of the year last year.
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@DustinB3403 said:
The servers are diskless.... yeah IPOD.
They are going to be sorry when that VNXe forgets it has two controllers and crashes spectacularly (experience).
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He thought that he had vSAN, then realized it was an IPOD. Oops. Everything bad here. Textbook bad design, dollars to donuts he used a salesperson to do his job and got burned, moving from the best (Xen) to the worst (VMware), on and on.
And maybe the saddest thing is that he posts this all proud like we aren't going to hang out heads in shame that he missed EVERY discussion about "how to talk to vendors", "SAN", inverted pyramids of doom and even the stock Dell sales scam of the last decade on SW. He definitely never asked anyone to check this over before turning the company's IT decision making over to a slimy sales guy.
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@scottalanmiller But Scott it's a great start to the new year for that sales person!
I mean come on, by January 14th this was sold, and paid for!
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Here is one just getting started. No problems yet (other than overspending, as always) but lots of misunderstandings. The typical SMB misuse of NAS and SAN has helped to lead the OP a little ways down the garden path.
