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    Burned by Eschewing Best Practices

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said:

      http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1274399-bad-language-frusterated-with-server-boot-drives

      • Not using backup software
      • Not virtualizing
      • Pulling drives out of a RAID array to "do stuff with them" and putting them back

      haha.... sounds like someone needs to learn some of the basics of systems administration and configuration... should really make a book on that... and use these as wonderful examples of what to not F^&^((& do.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        It gets worse... no RAID for the system, SSD for boot but not data...

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by DustinB3403

          I think that the worst thing there is he didn't word-wrap a single sentence, until the very end. Everything is it's own line until the end.

          And his response for it being broken is "I have no time to learn". There is no way someone is busy 24/7 that they don't have enough time to learn something new that will save them work in the long run.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            He has a great attitude, though. He's taking everything constructively and looking to make changes. I'm impressed.

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            • dafyreD
              dafyre
              last edited by

              Maybe he's one of the few that recognizes the folks commenting are not out to attack him, but help him... and for free!

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                Well he did have to leave for lunch to take a breather.

                IT Really shouldn't be so stressful that people have to rage like this. Had he come the a community and asked before attempting to implement he'd already be in great shape.

                Currently he's completely bent and cooling off. So helping him to understand may work, but he'll need a good amount of hand holding.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said:

                  Maybe he's one of the few that recognizes the folks commenting are not out to attack him, but help him... and for free!

                  Seems that way. It was a tough start too, with him being pretty upset and venting in the OP. But immediately he went rational, explained the hows and whys and stuff and is really looking for good feedback.

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                  • RojoLocoR
                    RojoLoco
                    last edited by

                    I guess that thread shows the quality of IT staff you get when you pay them a non-profit company IT wage... incompetent with a chance of irrational. Talk about "take whatever you can get". Hope he keeps his head out of his ass after SW fixes what he broke (for free).

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre @RojoLoco
                      last edited by

                      @RojoLoco He's had a chance to cool off a bit after he gets some food in him, lol. He's doing things the "way he's always done them" -- and that's not a bad thing (Best practices aside), because it always works...until it doesn't.

                      At best, he learns a bit from Scott about RAID 1, RAID 10, and virtualization. At worst, he just stays frustrated and keeps digging himself deeper.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Well he's getting his RAID 10 Array built now, and should report back soon. I'm steering him to XenServer. If other want to stir him in other directions go ahead.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          He's doing great.

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                          • brianlittlejohnB
                            brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller Hopefully he has an actual RAID card.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @brianlittlejohn said:

                              @scottalanmiller Hopefully he has an actual RAID card.

                              Hopefully (if he does) the drives are actually connected to it, and not the motherboard....

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
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                                @brianlittlejohn said:

                                @scottalanmiller Hopefully he has an actual RAID card.

                                Not looking likely.

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                                • brianlittlejohnB
                                  brianlittlejohn @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  @scottalanmiller Thats a shame.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    It's a Lenovo Thinkserver TD350

                                    td350.png

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      And... it's FakeRAID.

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                                      • RomoR
                                        Romo
                                        last edited by

                                        He could still use software raid, couldn't he?

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                                        • RomoR
                                          Romo
                                          last edited by

                                          I use mdadm with our kvm vm hosts, I haven't used xenserver but I would think mdadm would also be a possibility for him

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Romo
                                            last edited by

                                            @Romo said:

                                            He could still use software raid, couldn't he?

                                            That's what we are preparing to walk him through now. With XenServer that's a bit of a learning curve, though. Not going to be run.

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