Burned by Eschewing Best Practices
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@scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
@DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
But it is open to say that FreeNAS is better then say Synology, or even the most high end NAS's ever.
You need to provide exact context in these statements or your words will be used against you. And people will make calls based on things you've said, but left open ended.
It's open to asking. But the statement that FreeNAS is better than Synology specifically was not made and there is no room, none, for claiming that it was. None. Nada. Not even kind of. Is it better? Maybe. Was it said? In no way whatsoever.
You are mistaking the possibility for things to be better or worse than FreeNAS for thinking that they factually are.
Let's reverse it. You claim that by not stating that Synology is NOT better, that it must be worse. Obviously that is insane, what if a new product comes out that I didn't have access to to list, does that automatically make it worse by the nature of my not having mentioned it in the past? Clearly not, that's nutty.
Now let's say that since I said FreeNAS was "nearly" the best option, that since that, too, is open ended to you, by that logic I have also said that Synology "must be better" than FreeNAS.
See how insane that is? The logic that you use to say that the open ended nature lets you say anything is worse, also lets you say that everything is better. Since you have taken a lack of explicit list to create an implicit list that you make up, there is no end to what you can claim and anything in one direction is equally in the other. You've created a paradox through the misunderstanding of the language.
Scott my argument with your statement is you left it open ended, to interpretation or question. Unless someone goes out of their way to specifically ask what "everything else is" then they are right to assume that FreeBSD is the best, FreeNAS is second best and everything else can suck eggs.
There is no confusion about what you've typed. None. This is your typing matter that is the issue.
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@DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
Scott my argument with your statement is you left it open ended, to interpretation or question.
Right, and your argument is totally wrong. It's not open to interpretation. You are confused as to how English works and your entire point is invalid. Open does not mean you get to change what was said to something else. You need to step back and look at the English. This is not a technical thing, this is not an ambiguity thing, this is very, very basic English and exactly like I showed in my examples. You want to make what I said wrong so badly that you're not even making sense.
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@DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
Unless someone goes out of their way to specifically ask what "everything else is" then they are right to assume that FreeBSD is the best, FreeNAS is second best and everything else can suck eggs.
Totally wrong, totally, in every sense. Nothing to do with technology, just your English is wrong. You need to stop discussing this here, this is not the community to help you with English comprehension. You need to sit down with a dictionary or find an English language community. I'm not trying to mean or funny, I'm dead serious. This is a problem that could cause real job or life problems believing that this means what you think that it does. You need to get this figured out, but it isn't something I'm able to teach you.
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@DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
There is no confusion about what you've typed. None. This is your typing matter that is the issue.
There is nothing but confusion. It's that simple. You have even stated clearly that you don't know what "nearly" or "almost" mean. You it directly, that you thought, and still do, that "nearly" = "always" which is exactly wrong.
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This guy thinks that financial traders should run "loads of Java apps" and that he has high spec workstations yet doesn't have SSDs!
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1949520-lots-of-applications-using-java-performance-issues
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And another case (likely trolling) of which someone bought servers first and is now trying to determine the best array configuration.
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@DustinB3403 said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
And another case (likely trolling) of which someone bought servers first and is now trying to determine the best array configuration.
Couple of those this week.
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https://mangolassi.it/topic/12378/gitlab-in-massive-data-loss-with-no-working-backups/
Doesn't get much more burned than this one.
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This is going to go downhill quickly. No response yet.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis
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https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1964263-freenas-how-to-resilver-now
BPs Missed:
- Ran RAID 5
- Use a NAS OS
And then additionally got hit with mistakes caused by the additional complexity of using software RAID instead of hardware RAID. Nothing wrong with software RAID per se but it requires experience and you take risks that you will be able to manage it correctly. That failed here.
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Corrupted VHDX SQL File Server
Practices Eschewed:
Taking a live copy of the VHDX (not powering off the VM)
Not using a proper backup approach for both file level and block level
Not fact checking what the vendor sold and installed. -
RAID 5 in production.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1965431-need-data-from-raid-5-without-os
Important Note: OP was stuck with it and had nothing to do with the disaster. They are just the ones reporting it.
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Ouch this one is bad......
First, whoever set the server up:
- RAID 5
- RAID with only three disks
- Really cheap components
- No backups
- No virtualization
- Database on parity
- No installation media
Second, once the RAID failed and they called in the "tech" and the disaster continued:
- Didn't immediately take a backup
- Didn't properly replace the failed disk
- Ran filesystem checks and other intensive disk activity while the RAID was degraded
- Rebooted a degraded system
- Doesn't know the basics of the technologies he's there to work on
- Misusing really basic terms, like calling things VHDs when there is no virtualization (heard a term, repeated it)
- Didn't call someone in to help when he say stuff he didn't know about, just started mucking about.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1966285-dell-perc-h310-and-disk-failures
Adrian let him have it, and he earned it. He took a bad situation and drove it into the ground.
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Then he tries to defend things by saying he has more experience than Dell has been around (in years) and that lots of SW people think it is okay to run CHKDSK on a degraded array so he's not convinced it is a bad idea. OMG. That kind of moves things into the negligence category.
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https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1968019-dell-md3400-das-with-2-servers
This one was close but worked out. It's just a lab and a great learning opportunity. Would have been a big burn in production. But as it is, tons of great learning!
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@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Trying to remember (or find) the PSK for my L2TP tunnel so I don't have to reset it a dozen devices... because 1 a-hole decided to factory reset his phone and then whine about "I haven't gotten my work email in over a week, wtf?" Well, you erased the f@cking connection, so of course you can't get work email....
That's pretty extreme security for email... TLS not good enough?
Our email server is not exposed to the outside, and now Crapple doesn't like the PPTP tunnel we already had, so I had to make an L2TP tunnel. It's for all purpose remote access, email RDP, everything. And now 1 guy ruins it for everyone (mostly me) by forcing the whole thing to get reset, and he can't understand why it isn't "pa55word". Yay, I love being forced to manually reconfigure every ipad and iphone here... again.
I take it you didn't record the PSK somewhere you can find? Sadly I've done that before too. it sucks
I've looked everywhere I might have written it down, but I was "smart" and didn't write it down...
I just remembered this thing the boss came up with, gonna try that (typing exercise as a password)
Burned by not keeping clean and concise records, in a known location. Also for being "smart". . .
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Built an IPOD because he sales guy told him too. Then was told to split his RAID array in two, buy Starwind and use Starwind to combine the two RAID arrays (on the same controller) back again.
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@scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
Built an IPOD because he sales guy told him too. Then was told to split his RAID array in two, buy Starwind and use Starwind to combine the two RAID arrays (on the same controller) back again.
None of that makes sense.
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@scottalanmiller said in Burned by Eschewing Best Practices:
Built an IPOD because he sales guy told him too. Then was told to split his RAID array in two, buy Starwind and use Starwind to combine the two RAID arrays (on the same controller) back again.
I need a minion saying "Whaaa?"
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And... he wanted to put his backups on it, too.
