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    Why Does BASH on Mac OSX Rarely Save to History

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      Specific to your complaint about bash, I can open a terminal and hit the up arrow and go back through everything I have done for more history than I even recall using it for until I see the commands again.

      This is completely lacking here. I can see a lot of history but tons of it is missing. Some commands appear to be always missing, specifically Chef Knife commands. I've never once issued a system build command and had it available in the command history once the shell restarts. Not once. It might be completely coincidence but that one command I've noticed is 100% missing from the history over more than a month of testing.

      It is extremely strange to see it recording sporadically and not all or nothing.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        In fact I used mine today in order to get the screen command to connect to a ERL via USB console cable. I had thought it was one of the last things I had done. But it was not as I had forgotten about a bunch of SSH stuff I had done last week.

        I can see stuff much older in there, it's a very recent command that I was looking for and I've been keeping an eye on this as it seems to happen so often. There are tons of times that I don't go looking for old commands so it is hard to say how often it happens. But I know that certain complex commands appear to never be stored at all.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          And I've resorted to directly quierying the history rather than working through the shell itself too, to see if that changed anything but it is just not in there.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said:

            Stick to facts and not conjecture.

            Fair enough, I reworded.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              I should point out, now that I think about it, that recalling the commands using the "up arrow" even when I just used it does not work consistently either. It will randomly (as far as I can tell) recall different versions of the commands, including ones I have not run. So I have the issue when I go to run a command twice in a row, I have to check it very carefully because it does not come back up the same always, even when it was the very last command.

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              • stacksofplatesS
                stacksofplates
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                Does Mac have something like psacct? I thought I read somewhere that it had accton and you could run lastcomm.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                  @johnhooks said:

                  Does Mac have something like psacct? I thought I read somewhere that it had accton and you could run lastcomm.

                  I tried lastcomm, but no luck. Does not appear to be available.

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                  • stacksofplatesS
                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @johnhooks said:

                    Does Mac have something like psacct? I thought I read somewhere that it had accton and you could run lastcomm.

                    I tried lastcomm, but no luck. Does not appear to be available.

                    Oh, sorry. I have almost zero Mac experience. I never wanted to shell out the money for one. I'll look around though.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      Yeah, this is my first one in a very long time and I'm constantly frustrated with things not working, crashes, things that I'm just confused by or whatever.

                      I timed the boot time on this yesterday.... 14 seconds from power on to password, 28 seconds from password to second password (why does it always need that twice) and another 14 seconds from second password to usable desktop. I can't remember anything booting that slowly since we were using spinning disks on Windows XP and even then I feel like it was comparable or better plus never required that I log in twice.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        My machine crashed overnight last night. No idea why. There has to be something wrong with it.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates
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                          That sucks. If it makes you feel any better my Fedora 22 boots in about three seconds (after the bios screen).

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            That's more of what I am used to. Even brand new out of the box this thing booted roughly the same as it does now. Nothing has noticeably changed. The double logins were always needed (I suspect that it crashes after the first boot and boots again, but there is no way to tell and this is how it has always worked and it never tells me there was a crash, just seems to do everything twice.) I can't tell that it takes any longer than when it was fresh from the box.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates
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                              This any help?
                              https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3922262

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                Sadly no, I get most history, just not all. So can't be permissions. Very different than his issue of no history whatsoever.

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller As much of a problem that OS X has given you, I shudder to think: Have you tried Windows 10 or $favoriteLinuxDistro to see if the system runs better under another OS? If not, then it may actually be hardware problems.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @dafyre
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                                    @dafyre said:

                                    @scottalanmiller As much of a problem that OS X has given you, I shudder to think: Have you tried Windows 10 or $favoriteLinuxDistro to see if the system runs better under another OS? If not, then it may actually be hardware problems.

                                    I can't practically replace the OS on the hardware. That would be nice. A potential alternative is to run Linux in a VM which, from my testing, is completely stable and normal (within the confines of the overall OS staying up and running.)

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                                    • s.hacklemanS
                                      s.hackleman
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                                      If it is crashing that often you may have something else wrong. I haven't had mine crash in months, but I have a mac pro server that isn't waking up from sleep with out being unplugged for 10 seconds. It only happens about once every other week. Called Apple, they did a online log dump, couldn't find anything but kept putting pressure on them. They agreed to let me bring it into a Apple store for more diagnostics and have told me if they can't figure it out, they will replace it for free.

                                      If I was you I would start keeping a log of system crashes for about a week, then call and start hounding on support because what you are experiencing is not normal. The plus side is Apple stands behind their hardware and their OS so as long as you are still under warrantee, they will cover both.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @s.hackleman
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                                        @s.hackleman said:

                                        If it is crashing that often you may have something else wrong. I haven't had mine crash in months, but I have a mac pro server that isn't waking up from sleep with out being unplugged for 10 seconds. It only happens about once every other week. Called Apple, they did a online log dump, couldn't find anything but kept putting pressure on them. They agreed to let me bring it into a Apple store for more diagnostics and have told me if they can't figure it out, they will replace it for free.

                                        Sadly, no Apple Stores in this country, any bordering country, any bordering country to those, or to their bordering countries. I think my nearest store is like six countries away 😞

                                        Apple support is a bit lacking outside of the US and the richest European countries.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @s.hackleman
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                                          @s.hackleman said:

                                          The plus side is Apple stands behind their hardware and their OS so as long as you are still under warrantee, they will cover both.

                                          That's not my experience with them supporting clients. I've been escalated to Apple engineering for issues and had them be like "yeah, nothing we can do, this doesn't really work." And they just gave up.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @s.hackleman said:

                                            The plus side is Apple stands behind their hardware and their OS so as long as you are still under warrantee, they will cover both.

                                            That's not my experience with them supporting clients. I've been escalated to Apple engineering for issues and had them be like "yeah, nothing we can do, this doesn't really work." And they just gave up.

                                            They should know, they're Geniuses. 🙂

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