Frugal advice on a obtaining legit copy of Win 7 for a VM I'm adding.
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@dafyre said:
They can come and arrest me then, lol. I've been alternating between Physical Machine and VM with my licenses since the XP era.
XP, last I knew, had no way to be virtualized. It was Vista or 7 that introduced an option.
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I thought it was against the terms of service to strip a product key off of an already assembled computer to re-purpose it as a VM..
Maybe I was wrong with that but I'm almost certain I read that on an OEM Agreement for Windows 7.
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@dafyre said:
It shouldn't matter if he is going to use it to run as a VM or on a Physical PC... A license is a license, isn't it?
Nope.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
They can come and arrest me then, lol. I've been alternating between Physical Machine and VM with my licenses since the XP era.
XP, last I knew, had no way to be virtualized. It was Vista or 7 that introduced an option.
You couldn't purchase a XP license for a machine and install that instance as a VM? one license one VM, not accessed remotely?
I know the remote access is where you run into all kinds of trouble.
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@DustinB3403 said:
I thought it was against the terms of service to strip a product key off of an already assembled computer to re-purpose it as a VM..
Maybe I was wrong with that but I'm almost certain I read that on an OEM Agreement for Windows 7.
OEM licenses are tied to the hardware. I have a scenario where SBS2008 was purchased OEM. Legally, I cannot reinstall that license on any other hardware. I can legally format the hard, install a Hypervisor, and install SBS as a VM on that hardware.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@dafyre said:
They can come and arrest me then, lol. I've been alternating between Physical Machine and VM with my licenses since the XP era.
XP, last I knew, had no way to be virtualized. It was Vista or 7 that introduced an option.
You couldn't purchase a XP license for a machine and install that instance as a VM? one license one VM, not accessed remotely?
I know the remote access is where you run into all kinds of trouble.
I asked about that once, never felt like I got a straight answer.
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So then whoever made the comment about purchasing old NSA equipment and taking that key is outside of bounds in Microsoft's Eyes...
Just sayin'
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To answer the OP,
It depends on where the VM will live. If the VM will be on a single desktop/laptop, then you need to purchase a Full Box Product license to put assign to that machine - you can't take an OEM from another computer and move it to this machine.If you want to run the VM remotely, and access it over the network/internet/whatever, then you have to either purchase VDI for the, I think, every machine that will access the VM, or you can purchase SA for every machine that will access it.
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OEM licenses can never move, no matter what the circumstances. They are where they started and they die when that device retires.
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@Dashrender said:
You couldn't purchase a XP license for a machine and install that instance as a VM? one license one VM, not accessed remotely?
I was told (and I submitted it as such to a self audit from MS) that a retail copy can be installed that way. I never got a clear answer if an OEM license (never installed elsewhere) could be installed in a VM legally. It lets you obviously, but that does not mean it is in the terms of the EULA.
One could infer that an OEM license installed as a VM would legally be tied to that physical host though. You would not legally be allowed to migrate it to a new host later.
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@JaredBusch said:
I was told (and I submitted it as such to a self audit from MS) that a retail copy can be installed that way.
I asked about this a few times and never got a clear answer. But it logically seems to make sense that doing this should be okay.
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@JaredBusch said:
@Dashrender said:
You couldn't purchase a XP license for a machine and install that instance as a VM? one license one VM, not accessed remotely?
I was told (and I submitted it as such to a self audit from MS) that a retail copy can be installed that way. I never got a clear answer if an OEM license (never installed elsewhere) could be installed in a VM legally. It lets you obviously, but that does not mean it is in the terms of the EULA.
One could infer that an OEM license installed as a VM would legally be tied to that physical host though. You would not legally be allowed to migrate it to a new host later.
I was pretty sure a full license would work like this, I didn't mention the OEM because, like you, I don't know.
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Well, I'm looking for a cheap OEM of WIN 7 - immediate delivery of the key preferred. In fact, if any of you have an install image that would be helpful - I was planning on just rooting around for one.
Purchase of a cheap key is the intent of the post though.
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No idea where you would be able to get that.
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@mlnews said:
No idea where you would be able to get that.
Ditto - I'm guessing something like Tiger Direct or one of the other shops like that might have some, but likely you'll have to wait for it to be mailed to you.
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Ask Google like anything else...
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This is not immediate key delivery though. The thing is you do not need that to get the install done.. just add the key once the disc arrives.
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@anonymous said:
@JaredBusch said:
Ask Google like anything else...
Doesn't look legal to me....
A few more choices..
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I did try the google thing - there are a number of sites with low prices and seemingly good ratings - but checking into them for legitimacy is time consuming. For instance, both those top online stores (software plaza and Tek-Micro) have several complaints about the keys not getting delivered or not actually working. I threw it up to you guys to see if any of you had a reputable channel I purchase through.
Thanks for all the replies though guys. I appreciate the advice.
