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    • ?
      A Former User
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      So, on some of our stuff we are using Server 2012 R2 Standard instead of datacenter, which has to VOSE instances allowed.

      If we use our down grade rights to server 2008 R2 does that use a full seat? or can we have one VOSE downgraded to Server 2008 r2 and one at Server 2012 R2?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        It is one by one. So you could have one 2008 R2 VM and one 201 R2 VM on the same machine from the same standard license.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
          last edited by

          Agreed, you can do what you want - one 2008 R2 and the other 2012 R2

          Yep I'm a rehash today.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            The logic behind this is that while MS is allowing you to downgrade, they only do so in the hopes that it is temporary. No MS licensing makes it harder to upgrade in any way, they work very hard to make sure that any allowance that they give for downgrade rights always leaves an easy path to get up to date. They don't do anything to hinder that process.

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            • ?
              A Former User
              last edited by

              The Microsoft licensing rep is telling us we can't. It's either use Server 2012 R2 and get the trades or trade full seat in to use your downgrade rights, which would eliminate using the VOSE. So you can get two VMs from Server 2012 R2, but if you downgrade you only get one Server 2008 r2 Standard and that's it.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                @thecreativeone91 said:

                The Microsoft licensing rep is telling us we can't. It's either use Server 2012 R2 and get the trades or trade full seat in to use your downgrade rights, which would eliminate using the VOSE. So you can get two VMs from Server 2012 R2, but if you downgrade you only get one Server 2008 r2 Standard and that's it.

                Which rep was that? I'm pretty confident that that is wrong.

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                • ?
                  A Former User @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @thecreativeone91 said:

                  The Microsoft licensing rep is telling us we can't. It's either use Server 2012 R2 and get the trades or trade full seat in to use your downgrade rights, which would eliminate using the VOSE. So you can get two VMs from Server 2012 R2, but if you downgrade you only get one Server 2008 r2 Standard and that's it.

                  Which rep was that? I'm pretty confident that that is wrong.

                  Brent something. I just check with our other one and he said it was fine. And put it in writing for me so I'm good with that.

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                  • GregoryHallG
                    GregoryHall
                    last edited by

                    This write up is what I point people to when they have these questions (*the one my MS rep from SW said is gospel)
                    http://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=D7zcRxMWVLN

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
                      last edited by

                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                      Brent something. I just check with our other one and he said it was fine. And put it in writing for me so I'm good with that.

                      Okay, so I'm not crazy then 🙂

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        The Microsoft licensing rep is telling us we can't. It's either use Server 2012 R2 and get the trades or trade full seat in to use your downgrade rights, which would eliminate using the VOSE. So you can get two VMs from Server 2012 R2, but if you downgrade you only get one Server 2008 r2 Standard and that's it.

                        Which rep was that? I'm pretty confident that that is wrong.

                        I agree with Scott - Pretty sure he's wrong.

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                          A Former User @GregoryHall
                          last edited by

                          @GregoryHall said:

                          This write up is what I point people to when they have these questions (*the one my MS rep from SW said is gospel)
                          http://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages/downgrade_rights.aspx#fbid=D7zcRxMWVLN

                          Yeah but that says nothing about this specific case in regards to VOSE rights.

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