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    Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

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    • ?
      A Former User
      last edited by A Former User

      Well, I've downloaded it twice just incase it was corrupt.

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      No error information on unitrends side, nothing useful in the ESXi logs. Maybe it doesn't work on FreeESXi 6.0 for somereason.

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      • ?
        A Former User
        last edited by

        I'm totally tempted to move to Hyper-V just for this.

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        • ?
          A Former User
          last edited by

          Yep. This will not work on FreeESXi you need a licensed version. It tries to used a licesned feature called vFlash which is why it fails.

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          • Minion QueenM
            Minion Queen Banned
            last edited by

            Because it is agentless

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
              last edited by

              @Minion-Queen said:

              Because it is agentless

              That's different. This is about the deployment, not the backing up.

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              • JaguarJ
                Jaguar @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

                The storage devices are now 'stateless' meaning that if the VM is lost the data can be recovered now (a personal battle I fought for several years) so while the storage device cannot be added and removed nimbly bimbly, it does allow people to have 'split' configurations now, utilizing fast DAS for the OS, and slower storage for the backup storage, without worries about them getting desync'd. Allows a lot more flexibility.

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                • JaguarJ
                  Jaguar @A Former User
                  last edited by

                  @thecreativeone91 Yup, HTML5 🙂

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                  • JaguarJ
                    Jaguar @A Former User
                    last edited by

                    @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Jaguar
                      last edited by

                      @Jaguar said:

                      @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

                      what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @Jaguar
                        last edited by

                        @Jaguar said:

                        @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

                        It has been in the past. http://go.unitrends.com/unitrends-and-free-esxi You don't get Host level backups is all.

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                        • JaguarJ
                          Jaguar
                          last edited by

                          RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

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                          • ?
                            A Former User @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @Jaguar said:

                            @thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

                            what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

                            That's how you backuped before. Agentless will not work on free.

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                            • JaguarJ
                              Jaguar @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @Jaguar
                                last edited by

                                @Jaguar said:

                                @Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

                                How I have Veeam working:

                                I've created 5 storage locations, I've created 5 backup jobs, one for each day of the week. Each job points to only one of the storage locations.

                                Would that work for UEB?

                                I guess I'll have to dig into the Yellow Belt training to see how archiving works.

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                                • ?
                                  A Former User @Jaguar
                                  last edited by

                                  @Jaguar said:

                                  RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

                                  That wold only affect Snapshots/Host level backups.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Jaguar
                                    last edited by

                                    @Jaguar said:

                                    @Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

                                    Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

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                                    • JaguarJ
                                      Jaguar
                                      last edited by Jaguar

                                      Also, just in case anybody is concerned or thinks I'm an official source for Unitrends information, please view my posts as my thoughts and opinions alone and not representing Unitrends in any way. I hope you guys understand why I have to say this, but think of me as an individual or employee of NTG and do not allow any opinions to be formed of Unitrends as a result of my posts. I am not working in any official capacity of Unitrends while posting here.

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @Jaguar
                                        last edited by

                                        @Jaguar said:

                                        @Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

                                        Wait, Unitrends free is agentless only now? That's pointless. Wow. All this for nothing. I wouldn't even consider it now.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User @Dashrender
                                          last edited by A Former User

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @Jaguar said:

                                          @Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

                                          Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

                                          Not only that but you don't get the granularity that you get with agent backups when using host only.

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                                          • JaguarJ
                                            Jaguar @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender I don't think the new interface will let you set up different backup devices like that... Would have to try to see, but you may potentially be able to add multiple backup devices, but archiving is still the preferred method here.

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