Unitrends Redefines "Free" Virtual Backup

@Dashrender said:

I stopped fighting them and just found them a solution.

This is a mark of IT maturity. You can't always convince a client to follow your recommendations, and so the "right" way is sometimes just doing what the client wants.

Are you saying @scottalanmiller isn't mature because he doesn't like to give up?

scottalanmiller

@thecreativeone91 she's just saying I'm not mature. No specific reason.

Well, I've downloaded it twice just incase it was corrupt.

No error information on unitrends side, nothing useful in the ESXi logs. Maybe it doesn't work on FreeESXi 6.0 for somereason.

I'm totally tempted to move to Hyper-V just for this.

Yep. This will not work on FreeESXi you need a licensed version. It tries to used a licesned feature called vFlash which is why it fails.

Minion Queen

Because it is agentless

scottalanmiller

@Minion-Queen said:

Because it is agentless

That's different. This is about the deployment, not the backing up.

Jaguar

@Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

The storage devices are now 'stateless' meaning that if the VM is lost the data can be recovered now (a personal battle I fought for several years) so while the storage device cannot be added and removed nimbly bimbly, it does allow people to have 'split' configurations now, utilizing fast DAS for the OS, and slower storage for the backup storage, without worries about them getting desync'd. Allows a lot more flexibility.

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 Yup, HTML5

Jaguar

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

@Jaguar said:

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

It has been in the past. http://go.unitrends.com/unitrends-and-free-esxi You don't get Host level backups is all.

Jaguar

RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

@Dashrender said:

@Jaguar said:

@thecreativeone91 ESXi 6 has a major flaw right now, so I wouldn't recommend using it, also, ESXi free is not supported AT ALL for free, ONLY licensed vSphere.

what about with an agent? i.e. install an agent into the VM on ESXi Free.

That's how you backuped before. Agentless will not work on free.

Jaguar

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender No rotating NAS storage for backup storage, but archiving still works fine.

How I have Veeam working:

I've created 5 storage locations, I've created 5 backup jobs, one for each day of the week. Each job points to only one of the storage locations.

Would that work for UEB?

I guess I'll have to dig into the Yellow Belt training to see how archiving works.

@Jaguar said:

RE: VMware 6, PLEASE READ THIS KB: http://support.unitrends.com/ikm/questions.php?questionid=1892

That wold only affect Snapshots/Host level backups.

Dashrender

@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, so the new free product won't work for stand alone, non VM servers?

Jaguar

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@Jaguar said:

@Dashrender You can do that, but not with the new Unitrends Free product. It's for agentless VM snaps only (at this time)

Wait, Unitrends free is agentless only now? That's pointless. Wow. All this for nothing. I wouldn't even consider it now.