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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Romania canceled high schools for the rest of the school year. Kids are told they will miss the year and have to do it over.
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well. What sucks, they are instituting a new online learning portal next year, but now they are forced to get everyone onto the old system for this situation. On campus instructors often didn't bother using the system at all, and they are being forced to learn it and setup their classes - it's a mess.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Romania canceled high schools for the rest of the school year. Kids are told they will miss the year and have to do it over.
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well. What sucks, they are instituting a new online learning portal next year, but now they are forced to get everyone onto the old system for this situation. On campus instructors often didn't bother using the system at all, and they are being forced to learn it and setup their classes - it's a mess.
Same for my campus, only more of the professors here do both in-class and online, so it will just be a matter of telling folks to log in. One of the guys on my Team has already told his class their final presentations are going to be done via Webex, lol.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well.
Only, you know, over a decade after anything else is legacy and antiquated and, honestly, unprofessional in nearly any educational setting. Coronavirus is just exposes how poor our education practices, expectations, and infrastructure are.
Online learning wasn't something anyone should have been "preparing to implement" more than a decade ago. Even fifteen years ago it wasn't novel or new. Twenty years ago, maybe.
Offering in person classes for the minority that have unlimited funds, free time, and benefit from that style of learning? Great. Requiring it for anything outside of situations like labs, and only some of those, makes it hard to take the system seriously.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Romania canceled high schools for the rest of the school year. Kids are told they will miss the year and have to do it over.
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well. What sucks, they are instituting a new online learning portal next year, but now they are forced to get everyone onto the old system for this situation. On campus instructors often didn't bother using the system at all, and they are being forced to learn it and setup their classes - it's a mess.
Same for my campus, only more of the professors here do both in-class and online, so it will just be a matter of telling folks to log in. One of the guys on my Team has already told his class their final presentations are going to be done via Webex, lol.
That's how it should be, options are fine, requirements are bad.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Romania canceled high schools for the rest of the school year. Kids are told they will miss the year and have to do it over.
HOLY SHIT!
Yeah, because they don't do online (how can Romania of all places not be completely online already!! WTF Romania) and because they are mandatory public education like Germany, they have zero capacity to deal with this.
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US just announced that travel from Europe ends Friday at midnight for 30 days.
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Romania canceled high schools for the rest of the school year. Kids are told they will miss the year and have to do it over.
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well. What sucks, they are instituting a new online learning portal next year, but now they are forced to get everyone onto the old system for this situation. On campus instructors often didn't bother using the system at all, and they are being forced to learn it and setup their classes - it's a mess.
Fairly similar situation here. We've had it implimented for ages. The popluation/area that we service is very sparse. So online has been a must just to keep us afloat in some areas.
The uptake hasn't been what it should be as there are a lot of courses that should have, at minimum, had elements online already but academic people really, really hate change. Particularly when it comes to how they present their courses.
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@nadnerB said in Non-IT News Thread:
The uptake hasn't been what it should be as there are a lot of courses that should have, at minimum, had elements online already but academic people really, really hate change.
Basically.... "education", which is preparation for change, is the thing that they hate and avoid.
If they aren't the experts in change, they are the least qualified to be professors.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@nadnerB said in Non-IT News Thread:
The uptake hasn't been what it should be as there are a lot of courses that should have, at minimum, had elements online already but academic people really, really hate change.
Basically.... "education", which is preparation for change, is the thing that they hate and avoid.
If they aren't the experts in change, they are the least qualified to be professors.
Yeah pretty much.
They'll handle change, but only in their industry. Not so much in their day to day operations.Then when a simple change is introduced, they don't want a set of instructions and 'have a go'... they want a hand holding session... where they'll devolve it into a "well this is stupid"/ "Whaaaaaaaaahhhh" session.
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@nadnerB said in Non-IT News Thread:
Then when a simple change is introduced, they don't want a set of instructions and 'have a go'... they want a hand holding session... where they'll devolve it into a "well this is stupid"/ "Whaaaaaaaaahhhh" session.
Yeah, so many professors could never pass their own classes.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well.
Only, you know, over a decade after anything else is legacy and antiquated and, honestly, unprofessional in nearly any educational setting. Coronavirus is just exposes how poor our education practices, expectations, and infrastructure are.
Online learning wasn't something anyone should have been "preparing to implement" more than a decade ago. Even fifteen years ago it wasn't novel or new. Twenty years ago, maybe.
Offering in person classes for the minority that have unlimited funds, free time, and benefit from that style of learning? Great. Requiring it for anything outside of situations like labs, and only some of those, makes it hard to take the system seriously.
OK, you're misreading what I wrote.
The college has a full and very active online course load. But they also have an active on campus set of course.
Teachers who only teach on campus classes (granted most of the old timers) have found no value in having the online portal setup (even though some students might). This portal, for on campus classes would likely be limited to the course syllabus, a listing of homework assignments and perhaps a discussion area - but there would be no education portion to it - as that would be fully in the classroom.My wife has been teaching both on campus and online classes for more than a decade
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@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
The college has a full and very active online course load. But they also have an active on campus set of course.
Teachers who only teach on campus classes (granted most of the old timers) have found no value in having the online portal setup (even though some students might). This portal, for on campus classes would likely be limited to the course syllabus, a listing of homework assignments and perhaps a discussion area - but there would be no education portion to it - as that would be fully in the classroom.No assignments to hand in? Or they use... USB sticks or something? How they heck do you function without a portal in any modern setting, even for in person classes?
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
The college has a full and very active online course load. But they also have an active on campus set of course.
Teachers who only teach on campus classes (granted most of the old timers) have found no value in having the online portal setup (even though some students might). This portal, for on campus classes would likely be limited to the course syllabus, a listing of homework assignments and perhaps a discussion area - but there would be no education portion to it - as that would be fully in the classroom.No assignments to hand in? Or they use... USB sticks or something? How they heck do you function without a portal in any modern setting, even for in person classes?
All assignments are handed in on paper. I realize this is crazy to someone like you, but it's just not for most people attending on campus classes. Tests are also all taken on paper.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@Dashrender said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
Romania canceled high schools for the rest of the school year. Kids are told they will miss the year and have to do it over.
My wife's college is preparing for remote learning as well. What sucks, they are instituting a new online learning portal next year, but now they are forced to get everyone onto the old system for this situation. On campus instructors often didn't bother using the system at all, and they are being forced to learn it and setup their classes - it's a mess.
Same for my campus, only more of the professors here do both in-class and online, so it will just be a matter of telling folks to log in. One of the guys on my Team has already told his class their final presentations are going to be done via Webex, lol.
No change of plans yet at my campus, though schools around us are shutting down.
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Coronavirus: Asian stocks extend global markets rout
Asian shares have continued the global markets slump on Friday as investors fear the spread of the coronavirus will wipe out economic growth.
Shares across the region, including Japan, Hong Kong and China, have plunged in morning trading. It followed the Dow and S&P 500 in the US having they're biggest one-day declines since 1987. Investors are concerned that emergency action by authorities around the world may be insufficient to avoid recession. -
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Coronavirus: Europe now epicentre of the pandemic, says WHO
Europe is now the "epicentre" of the global coronavirus pandemic, the head of the World Health Organization says.
Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus urged countries to use aggressive measures, community mobilisation and social distancing to save lives."Do not just let this fire burn," he said. His comments came as several European countries reported steep rises in infections and deaths. Italy has recorded its highest daily toll yet. There were 250 deaths recorded over the past 24 hours, taking the total to 1,266, with 17,660 infections overall. Spain, the worst-affected European country after Italy, reported a 50% jump in fatalities to 120 on Friday. Infections increased to 4,231. -
