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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Anti-vax parents sue to keep unvaccinated kids in school during outbreak
County fiercely defends restrictions amid measles outbreak that has sickened 145.
As New York’s Rockland County grapples with a large and lengthy outbreak of measles, a group of anti-vaccine parents sued officials for temporarily barring their unvaccinated children from school—and the county is not having it.
So... If most of the kids in school are already vaccinated... Why is there public outrcy over unvaxxed kids coming to school? Just curious...
[Full Disclosure: I am not an anti-vaxxer!]
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Anti-vax parents sue to keep unvaccinated kids in school during outbreak
County fiercely defends restrictions amid measles outbreak that has sickened 145.
As New York’s Rockland County grapples with a large and lengthy outbreak of measles, a group of anti-vaccine parents sued officials for temporarily barring their unvaccinated children from school—and the county is not having it.
So... If most of the kids in school are already vaccinated... Why is there public outrcy over unvaxxed kids coming to school? Just curious...
[Full Disclosure: I am not an anti-vaxxer!]
As always, where's the money?
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Anti-vax parents sue to keep unvaccinated kids in school during outbreak
County fiercely defends restrictions amid measles outbreak that has sickened 145.
As New York’s Rockland County grapples with a large and lengthy outbreak of measles, a group of anti-vaccine parents sued officials for temporarily barring their unvaccinated children from school—and the county is not having it.
So... If most of the kids in school are already vaccinated... Why is there public outrcy over unvaxxed kids coming to school? Just curious...
[Full Disclosure: I am not an anti-vaxxer!]
Herd Immunity. Even if most kids are vaccinated there is a small chance the vaccinations didn't work, a child is allergic to one of the ingredients in the vaccine, or for whatever medical reason the child can't get a vaccine (which is more common then people think, although still not that common). In general herd immunity requires about a 90-95% vaccination rate (this is disease dependant polio for instance is like 80-85%), which means everyone who is able to immunize really needs to get the vaccine.
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@scotth said in Non-IT News Thread:
@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Anti-vax parents sue to keep unvaccinated kids in school during outbreak
County fiercely defends restrictions amid measles outbreak that has sickened 145.
As New York’s Rockland County grapples with a large and lengthy outbreak of measles, a group of anti-vaccine parents sued officials for temporarily barring their unvaccinated children from school—and the county is not having it.
So... If most of the kids in school are already vaccinated... Why is there public outrcy over unvaxxed kids coming to school? Just curious...
[Full Disclosure: I am not an anti-vaxxer!]
As always, where's the money?
Interestingly enough, it would be beneficial for medical groups to push anti-vax (and maybe they are) the cost of treatment of vaccine preventable diseases is much higher then the cost of the vaccines themselves.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Anti-vax parents sue to keep unvaccinated kids in school during outbreak
County fiercely defends restrictions amid measles outbreak that has sickened 145.
As New York’s Rockland County grapples with a large and lengthy outbreak of measles, a group of anti-vaccine parents sued officials for temporarily barring their unvaccinated children from school—and the county is not having it.
So... If most of the kids in school are already vaccinated... Why is there public outrcy over unvaxxed kids coming to school? Just curious...
[Full Disclosure: I am not an anti-vaxxer!]
Did you read the article? It specifically stated that schools with higher vaccination were not affected.
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862,520 Fiat-Chrysler vehicles have emissions issues, will be recalled
Recall is voluntary in most states, but California is compelling upgrades.
Issues with the catalytic converters of 862,520 Fiat-Chrysler vehicles are prompting a semi-voluntary recall, according to officials from the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB).
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The issue these Anti-Vax parents claim, is that this one school has no reported cases of Measles, and thus the their children should be allowed to attend. As if somehow this school is protected from the disease.
Yet what these parents aren't realizing is that the disease is highly infectious, easily transferable and capable of killing many people, including those who are vaccinated.
The county should countersue the parents for their attempted murder by negligence during a measles outbreak.
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Here’s why NASA’s administrator made such a bold move Wednesday
"I think we as an agency need to stick to our commitment."
A remarkable turnaround, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine on Wednesday said the space agency would consider launching its first Orion mission to the Moon on commercial rockets instead of NASA's own Space Launch System. This caught virtually the entire aerospace world off guard, and represents a bold change from the status quo of Orion as America's spacecraft, and the SLS as America's powerful rocket that will launch it.
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Left 4 Dead’s developers are Back 4 Blood with new spiritual successor
Warner Bros. picks up the co-op zombie shooter ball Valve dropped a decade ago.
While an accompanying FAQ makes it clear that this is not Left 4 Dead 3 (an IP that's owned by Valve, in any case), the announcement notes that the new game will share the same creators, development team, and zombie-shooting flavor of those well-remembered classics. "We get to return to a genre that was born in our studio with over ten years of additional experience and zombie ideas racked up in our brains," Turtle Rock cofounder and Design Director Chris Ashton said in a statement.
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737 MAX crashes “linked” by satellite track data, FAA says
Similar ADS-B telemetry profiles between flights suggest, but don't confirm, same root cause.
The Federal Aviation Administration issued an emergency order grounding all Boeing 737 MAX aircraft on March 13, citing new data that showed a possible link between the March 10 crash of an Ethiopian Airlines flight and the crash of a Lion Air flight off the coast of Indonesia last October. In an interview with NPR's David Greene this morning, acting FAA Director Dan Ewell said that "newly refined satellite data" from a flight telemetry system had led the agency to make the move.
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@dafyre said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Anti-vax parents sue to keep unvaccinated kids in school during outbreak
County fiercely defends restrictions amid measles outbreak that has sickened 145.
As New York’s Rockland County grapples with a large and lengthy outbreak of measles, a group of anti-vaccine parents sued officials for temporarily barring their unvaccinated children from school—and the county is not having it.
So... If most of the kids in school are already vaccinated... Why is there public outrcy over unvaxxed kids coming to school? Just curious...
[Full Disclosure: I am not an anti-vaxxer!]
Because the kids should not have to suffer due to parent's stupidity. If there is an outbreak, the unvaxed kids could die. It should be the parents, not the kids. But I'm sure the parents are already vaccinated.
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A dog potentially exposed more than 100 people to black plague in Colorado
The unusual case of the deadly disease prompts a warning from experts.
The unusual case prompted health experts to issue an equally unusual—and perhaps startling—warning. That is, that dogs in the US may contract the deadly bacterial infection at any time of the year, and the signs may be hard to spot.
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The gang’s back together with new member in Avengers: End Game trailer
The Avengers are reassembling with a new motto: "Whatever it takes."
Captain Marvel is still burning up the box office, saving Hollywood from a lackluster first quarter of 2019. Might she do the same for the embattled Avengers, reeling from their staggering loss? It sure looks that way, based on the latest trailer for Marvel's Avengers: End Game. And since it would take several days at this point to re-watch all the earlier films in the franchise, we also get to revisit the origins of our surviving Avengers in black-and-white footage from those movies.
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Senate Rejects Trump's Border Emergency Declaration
WASHINGTON — The Senate on Thursday easily voted to overturn President Trump’s declaration of a national emergency at the southwestern border, delivering a bipartisan rebuke to what lawmakers in both parties deemed executive overreach by a president determined to build his border wall over Congress’s objections.
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Brexit: MPs vote by a majority of 211 to seek delay to EU departure
MPs have voted by 413 to 202 - a majority of 211 - for Prime Minister Theresa May to ask the EU for a delay to Brexit.
It means the UK may not now leave on 29 March as previously planned.
Mrs May says Brexit could be delayed by three months, to 30 June, if MPs back her deal in a vote next week.
If they reject her deal again then she says she will seek a longer extension - but any delay has to be agreed by the 27 other EU member states.
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@scottalanmiller when we voted back in 2016 there was two options on the ballot paper and that was in or out of the EU, there was no option that we must leave with a deal. They are destroying democracy by not listening to the will of the people that voted to leave.
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@StuartJordan said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller when we voted back in 2016 there was two options on the ballot paper and that was in or out of the EU, there was no option that we must leave with a deal. They are destroying democracy by not listening to the will of the people that voted to leave.
Kind of, except it wasn't that clear. While the ballot might have said "stay or go", there were a LOT of stipulations with the "go" that were explained to be what the vote was about.
So technically, without a deal would actually be violating democracy. The FIRST referendum was in 1973 and was about JOINING the EU. The second referendum to leave two years ago is the first violation of democracy if the government isn't allowed to change its mind with the time. The idea that a vote is binding into the future is a new concept introduced just by pro-leave folks to try to push through something that they want that doesn't match what the public was told that it was voting for.
Just like things changed between 1973 and 2016 that made people feel it wasn't a problem to re-vote on something already voted on, between 2016 and 2019 things have changed and now the truth that the vote in 2016 was false has come to light.
Bottom line, the 2016 vote wasn't honest, and dishonest democracy isn't democracy. Sadly, that mistake was already made. But going into a no-deal Brexit, or really doing anything at this point without getting honest input from the people, is anti-democratic to the extreme. From the outside looking in, democracy already failed, and the PM is trying to use FUD and bullying to push through her personal agenda at the cost of what little democratic process could be salvaged.
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I think at this point, everyone is in agreement that the British government has failed. It used threats of blocking EU membership to keep Scotland from leaving, then turned around and is pulling them out anyway. They had a vote based on impossible choices that weren't reality. Now that they have the things that they wanted, the government can't action them. And the queen, who has but one job, hasn't stepped in to help. The system is abject failure from beginning to end.
I think even attempting to look for "democracy" in this process is just marketing. People use it to promote whatever agenda they want. One side points to democracy demanding X, the other to Y. Democracy, not so many years ago, was considered a bad thing, tantamount to mob rule or chaos. And that is mostly what we are seeing. No one is concerned about the "will of the people", but rather a false democratic process where people believe that they are voting on one thing, but their vote is used to determine something different.
While terrible, there could be a silver lining. Maybe something this dramatic can help salvage the UK. Maybe Scotland can break free of the train wreck. Maybe the constitution can be rewritten. Maybe the silly lady with the hat can stop making everyone laugh at the British government and not take it seriously. Maybe the country can step back and vote on "creating a new government that works in the modern world". Just like the US needs to do, both of our countries designed their governments around the needs and knowledge of a much younger world. Things have changed, we need to adapt.
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As an "outsider"...
In my "pro UK" hat, I hope that the Brexit fails because deal or no deal, it is a train wreck for the UK. It has made everyone look bad, hurt the economy, and it hasn't even happened yet. The degree to which it will likely cripple the UK is staggering. So for the love of the UK, it needs to cancel Article 50.
In my "tourist" hat, I want the Brexit to go through, with no deal. Because the UK currency and market will collapse and touring it will be so cheap. It'll be the next "near Europe backwater" like Morocco. Cheap and where Europeans and Americans go for quiet, low cost vacations.
In my "EU citizen" hat, I don't want the UK to stay - they need to go (but with a good deal.) Their government and values don't align well with the rest of the EU and it's nothing against the UK, but they don't make good members of the family. Better as neighbours than as family.
