Non-IT News Thread
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
US citizen sues the Federal Government after being detained at airport.
A Southern California man has become the latest person to sue the federal government over what he says is an unconstitutional search of his phone at the Los Angeles International Airport.
According to his lawsuit, which was recently filed in federal court in Los Angeles, Haisam Elsharkawi had arrived at LAX on February 9, 2017 and was headed to Saudi Arabia to go on a hajj, the Muslim religious pilgrimage.That's not likely to go far. Courts have ruled that citizens stop being citizens when entering or leaving the country.
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@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
LAX is a port. The coast has nothing to do with it in airports. The "border" is inside of the airport. There is no citizen rights until after he is through customs and past security. This is how all airports around the world work. In order to be labeled an "international" airport, they must contain a zone that is "outside of the US" and subject to "any use of force desired with no rights".
Welcome to the world of international travel.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
Most of the US population lives in no man's land. This is not a new or surprising thing.
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@scottalanmiller He was already past security.
After clearing the security checkpoint, Elsharkawi, an American citizen, was pulled aside from the Turkish Airlines boarding line
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@JaredBusch said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller The issue lies in that he was refused to be given a lawyer, was detained without cause and was arrested and illegally detained when he was in the terminal.
So while I can agree to an extent, this seems like it has some bearing.
Except none of that matters because of where he was. The point being, you have no rights in no man's land. The US doens't recognize the authority of the constitution universally. Constitutional rights only matter if you are covered by them.
This is LAX, so while close to the coast, I'd have to see where the US border comes in. I know we've had this conversation and that people 100 miles in from the border aren't granted any rights when it comes to CBP.
Still this seems like an infringement on this US citizens rights.
Most of the US population lives in no man's land. This is not a new or surprising thing.
Yeah, anyone near an airport, near a border, near a reservation... the US claims an extended border zone many files from any actual border, making, in reality, almost nowhere completely covered by any law. But they tend to not expose that unless they would really get in trouble otherwise. But in the actual border zone or transfer zones, they don't hide it at all and do anything that they want.
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Therefore CBP should have no authority there under the same thing you just said.
He might as well ask the North Korean Gov't for assistance if the stance is International Law is the rule here.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller He was already past security.
After clearing the security checkpoint, Elsharkawi, an American citizen, was pulled aside from the Turkish Airlines boarding line
You've got your directions wrong. He was INSIDE security, not OUTSIDE. All boarding lines are in no man's land, all of them (international.) He's not "safe" until he is in the unsecured part of the airport.
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
Therefore CBP should have no authority there under the same thing you just said.
He might as well ask the North Korean Gov't for assistance if the stance is International Law is the rule here.
Therefore he's COMPLETELY without protection. No rights at all. US Citizens lose all rights once they step into that area.
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The only chance you have at rights in that area is to be dual (or more) citizens and belong to a country that isn't the US, that has treaties to protect you in that zone outside of US constitutional law, and that is willing to militarily enforce them.
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Kroger-owned grocery store begins fully driverless deliveries
Road-legal delivery vehicles don't even have space for a human driver.
Nuro, a startup founded by two veterans of Google's self-driving car project, has reached an important milestone: it has started making fully autonomous grocery deliveries on public streets.
Fry's Food, a brand owned by grocery giant Kroger, launched a self-driving grocery delivery program back in August in partnership with Nuro. Fry's has been using Nuro cars to deliver groceries to customers near one of its stores on East McDowell Road in Scottsdale, Arizona.
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@mlnews shouldn't that be in Misc Tech News?
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@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews shouldn't that be in Misc Tech News?
Not IT related, still car stuff.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@DustinB3403 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@mlnews shouldn't that be in Misc Tech News?
Not IT related, still car stuff.
Autonomous cars would fall into the category of IT.
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Chilling Adventures of Sabrina charms with some welcome holiday horror
Netflix horror series' strong first season rewarded with sixteen new episodes.
The series is based on the comic book series of the same name, part of the Archie Horror imprint, and it's much, much darker in tone than the original Sabrina the Teenaged Witch comics. Originally intended as a companion series to the CW's Riverdale—a gleefully Gothic take on the original Archie comic books—Sabrina ended up on Netflix instead. It's a stronger series for it, evidenced by rave reviews and a rapidly expanding fan base.
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@mlnews said in Non-IT News Thread:
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina charms with some welcome holiday horror
Netflix horror series' strong first season rewarded with sixteen new episodes.
The series is based on the comic book series of the same name, part of the Archie Horror imprint, and it's much, much darker in tone than the original Sabrina the Teenaged Witch comics. Originally intended as a companion series to the CW's Riverdale—a gleefully Gothic take on the original Archie comic books—Sabrina ended up on Netflix instead. It's a stronger series for it, evidenced by rave reviews and a rapidly expanding fan base.
It's eh... Plot of weak in the first half of the season and picked up in the latter half. The main characters acting is mediocre (although all of the supporting characters are on point). I love the dark twist they added to the story (taken from the comic that shares the name). Overall a 6/10 I wish the acting was better but the weak plot in the first half couldn't save the second half.
Just started watching the Yule special this morning. So far it's better then the majority of episodes from the previous season.
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@coliver My wife loves this show. And one of our all time favourite actors is in it, that's probably why she watches it. Richard Coyle, famous for being in Coupling. He's a truly amazing actor. His episode special "The Girl with Two Breasts" is some of the best acting ever when you realize he was ad libbing the entire segment in the foreign language.
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Report: Facebook let major tech firms access private messages, friends lists
NYT: Bing could see nearly "all Facebook users’ friends without consent."
The news comes days after Facebook disclosed a massive photo bug, weeks after 50 million people were affected by an access-token harvesting attack, and less than a month after it was revealed that Facebook considered selling access to its users’ data. And all of those scandals are in addition to the Cambridge Analytica debacle. In June 2018, Facebook dodged some lawmakers' questions in written testimony, after two days of CEO Mark Zuckerberg's appearance before the US Senate.
