Non-IT News Thread

@jmoore Alcohol is a drug that causes more disease and death than all others put together?
How hard is it not to do drugs? Pretty damn hard considering the vast majority of humans use drugs.

Obsolesce

@momurda said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jmoore Alcohol is a drug that causes more disease and death than all others put together?
How hard is it not to do drugs? Pretty damn hard considering the vast majority of humans use drugs.

But it takes a hell of a lot of stupidity to "overdose" on alcohol... that was his point.

momurda

@obsolesce No that wasnt his point. Yet it happens more than all others put together. Also this woman didnt od on alcohol. I was just bringing up the fact he doesnt 'do drugs' but drinks alcohol, so he does, in fact do drugs.

RojoLoco

@jmoore said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller Dang thats sad. You know you don't overdose if you just don't take drugs. I mean how hard is it to not take drugs?

If you are rich and famous, you have much more time and money... it would be extremely difficult to not take drugs. Plus rich and famous people get really high quality drugs, which makes it much easier to overdose.

Obsolesce

@rojoloco said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jmoore said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller Dang thats sad. You know you don't overdose if you just don't take drugs. I mean how hard is it to not take drugs?

If you are rich and famous, you have much more time and money... it would be extremely difficult to not take drugs. Plus rich and famous people get really high quality drugs, which makes it much easier to overdose.

Then that's the risk they are accepting by doing those kinds of drugs... it's still a choice. My opinion on that is if you stick your hand in the fire and get burnt, you deserve it.

dafyre

@obsolesce said in Non-IT News Thread:

@rojoloco said in Non-IT News Thread:

@jmoore said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller Dang thats sad. You know you don't overdose if you just don't take drugs. I mean how hard is it to not take drugs?

If you are rich and famous, you have much more time and money... it would be extremely difficult to not take drugs. Plus rich and famous people get really high quality drugs, which makes it much easier to overdose.

Then that's the risk they are accepting by doing those kinds of drugs... it's still a choice. My opinion on that is if you stick your hand in the fire and get burnt, you deserve it.

Especially if somebody else has spent any amount of time telling you, "The fire is hot!"

bnrstnr

It's still not even that easy to say "the fire is hot, don't touch", opioids are hugely over prescribed. 4 out of 5 new heroin users get hooked on legal, prescribed opioids first. A regular person with some injury/ailment, coupled with a shitty doctor, could easily end up hooked on the stuff...

jmoore

@momurda Well I should have been more precise. Drugs that cause you to overdose and die from it

jmoore

@rojoloco I guess I can understand that point of view

scottalanmiller

@bnrstnr said in Non-IT News Thread:

It's still not even that easy to say "the fire is hot, don't touch", opioids are hugely over prescribed. 4 out of 5 new heroin users get hooked on legal, prescribed opioids first. A regular person with some injury/ailment, coupled with a shitty doctor, could easily end up hooked on the stuff...

Yeah BUT... a drug dealer is a drug dealer. Making it legalized doesn't make it any less common sense not to do it. At this point, little is more common knowledge and common news than that the US medical establishment is pushing the worst possible drugs and is the most dangerous of all drug "cartels." Anyone who isn't aware not to take doctor prescribed opiodes at this point is intentionally avoiding both common sense and common knowledge. Four years ago, that would have been a different story, a little. Now, we have an entire generation of students who've gone through high school in a world where government sponsored opiode addition is a top news topic.

zachary715

@jmoore said in Non-IT News Thread:

@scottalanmiller Dang thats sad. You know you don't overdose if you just don't take drugs. I mean how hard is it to not take drugs?

For someone who has never taken them... pretty easy. For someone who got involved at some point in their life for one reason or another... extremely difficult apparently.

I don't claim to understand addiction, but I've seen first hand how much of a struggle it is for numerous people. My former boss got let go because of his struggle with alcohol. Some of my closest friends growing up are still struggling with it constantly. They started drinking in HS which then became weed which turned into pills, and the next thing you know they're hooked on oxycontin or something similar. I don't even recognize these people anymore and try to stay far away from them.

I've always been scared to even drink alcohol. I've always said that 0 out of 10 alcoholics think they'll be an alcoholic when they take their first drink. My wife can have her beer or wine and control herself just fine. I think you just never know if it'll be something that cripples you or not until it's too late, therefore I just choose to stay away from all of it altogether.

jmoore

@zachary715 That makes sense and I understand that. I guess the people that overdose on hard drugs are people that have struggled with them in the past. I like alcohol. I occasionally let myself have a beer or small portion of whiskey or sake. Sure I would like to have more than I do but i don't let myself either. I never tried anything else because I thought it was stupid to do so