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I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.
Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.
EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.
My wife's family is 6 hours away. We see them once every month or so. My parent's, and an uncle, live 8 miles from where we live now. We see them several times a week.
I guess this question would be more for your wife then as I'm in her position. I'm all for family but I don't think that people in our situation (professionally oriented, responsible, extremely busy people) can reasonably accommodate their "needs". Her Dad's retired. Like dude, drive here.
We don't really have these issues thankfully. Unless it is an emergency all visits are planned in advance.
Honest question. Do you think I'm being a dick for asking these sort of questions? Her parents are divorced and her dad alone wants to see us 2-3 times a week. If they were married it'd be different because we'd see everyone at the same time and it'd be done. We have to see her Mom and Dad separately. How can 2-3 days a week be reasonable in this situation? It's crazy to me.
Well, my parents are dead, but if they weren't I'd feel the same way because I really didn't like either of them. As for in laws, it depends. My current wife's father is a pretty cool guy, her mother is a drug addict disaster. They aren't together, we never see her mother, thank god. As far as exwives go, pretty much fairly good, except one wife her siblings were a nightmare, breaking into our house, showing up drunk all the time trying to start fights with me, etc. I hate family beyond my immediate family and my siblings. So no, I don't think you're a dick, I understand.
When it comes to basing things on family, I consider business before family in the sense that without my business my family would be living in dire poverty in post-communist hell. My exwives, both of them, their families in some way or another tried to prevent us from moving or doing things which ended up making me wealthy. I don't let others stop me from accomplishing my goals, especially people without goals. Interestingly this hasn't stopped all the aforementioned people for asking me for money all the time (exwives not included, they're entitled to it for putting up with me).
Disclaimer: I don't really like anyone and most people don't like me, YMMV
I am totally a family first guy. And my employers know it when they hire me... But I also realize that sometimes putting family first means I have to put my job first. My current job, I have no problems with that at all... In an IT emergency, I'd be the first on campus and the last to leave... but if the CXO needs help with his mouse that has dead batteries while I'm at my kid's ball game, or his pre-k graduation... Yeah, it can wait. That got me in hot water a few times at my last job, but I stood my ground every time.
A friend of mine and I had a discussion around this. He believes that he works (worked, he's a nurse now) blue collar manual labour jobs with a set 9-5 and all of the protections that blue collar work brought because he wanted every holiday, every vacation day guaranteed, no on calls, overtime refusal as a right, overtime pay without question, not a minute of "can you stay and do this", etc. He wanted 40 hours a week, not a moment more. His time was his time.
I did the exact opposite, busted hump on white collar jobs and put in whatever hours and relocations were required. But for the same purpose.
By the time that we were of child rearing ages (we are the same age) he was still beholden to a 40 hour a week job, no opportunity for flexibility, had commute time to include, had low income, but at least wasn't on call or working 80 hours a week.
At the same time, I was home full time with my kids from day one, had the flexibility to work the hours that I wanted, not only when I was needed, had the ability to earn many times his income while working less than thirty hours a week, had the choice to live anywhere, etc.
There is an important aspect to "focus on your job for your family". You can't do solely that, but you can't ignore it either.
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I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.
Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.
EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.
My wife's family is 6 hours away. We see them once every month or so. My parent's, and an uncle, live 8 miles from where we live now. We see them several times a week.
I guess this question would be more for your wife then as I'm in her position. I'm all for family but I don't think that people in our situation (professionally oriented, responsible, extremely busy people) can reasonably accommodate their "needs". Her Dad's retired. Like dude, drive here.
We don't really have these issues thankfully. Unless it is an emergency all visits are planned in advance.
Honest question. Do you think I'm being a dick for asking these sort of questions? Her parents are divorced and her dad alone wants to see us 2-3 times a week. If they were married it'd be different because we'd see everyone at the same time and it'd be done. We have to see her Mom and Dad separately. How can 2-3 days a week be reasonable in this situation? It's crazy to me.
Well, my parents are dead, but if they weren't I'd feel the same way because I really didn't like either of them. As for in laws, it depends. My current wife's father is a pretty cool guy, her mother is a drug addict disaster. They aren't together, we never see her mother, thank god. As far as exwives go, pretty much fairly good, except one wife her siblings were a nightmare, breaking into our house, showing up drunk all the time trying to start fights with me, etc. I hate family beyond my immediate family and my siblings. So no, I don't think you're a dick, I understand.
When it comes to basing things on family, I consider business before family in the sense that without my business my family would be living in dire poverty in post-communist hell. My exwives, both of them, their families in some way or another tried to prevent us from moving or doing things which ended up making me wealthy. I don't let others stop me from accomplishing my goals, especially people without goals. Interestingly this hasn't stopped all the aforementioned people for asking me for money all the time (exwives not included, they're entitled to it for putting up with me).
Disclaimer: I don't really like anyone and most people don't like me, YMMV
I am totally a family first guy. And my employers know it when they hire me... But I also realize that sometimes putting family first means I have to put my job first. My current job, I have no problems with that at all... In an IT emergency, I'd be the first on campus and the last to leave... but if the CXO needs help with his mouse that has dead batteries while I'm at my kid's ball game, or his pre-k graduation... Yeah, it can wait. That got me in hot water a few times at my last job, but I stood my ground every time.
A friend of mine and I had a discussion around this. He believes that he works (worked, he's a nurse now) blue collar manual labour jobs with a set 9-5 and all of the protections that blue collar work brought because he wanted every holiday, every vacation day guaranteed, no on calls, overtime refusal as a right, overtime pay without question, not a minute of "can you stay and do this", etc. He wanted 40 hours a week, not a moment more. His time was his time.
I did the exact opposite, busted hump on white collar jobs and put in whatever hours and relocations were required. But for the same purpose.
By the time that we were of child rearing ages (we are the same age) he was still beholden to a 40 hour a week job, no opportunity for flexibility, had commute time to include, had low income, but at least wasn't on call or working 80 hours a week.
At the same time, I was home full time with my kids from day one, had the flexibility to work the hours that I wanted, not only when I was needed, had the ability to earn many times his income while working less than thirty hours a week, had the choice to live anywhere, etc.
There is an important aspect to "focus on your job for your family". You can't do solely that, but you can't ignore it either.
Totally right. That last sentence goes both ways. You can't always side towards your family, or side towards your job... Either of those is dangerous (if you side to your job all the time, you'll miss out on your family.... and if you side with your family all the time, you'll miss out on job promotions [or lose your job])
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You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
Better they call it David Attenborough than some of the other "real person" choices. One was some kid w/ cancer... I mean, WTF is some sob story kid doing getting nominated to have a marine research vessel named after them???
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
One of the support vessels is being called Boaty McBoatface as a tribute
and it's being registered in the Falkland Islands 
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You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
Better they call it David Attenborough than some of the other "real person" choices. One was some kid w/ cancer... I mean, WTF is some sob story kid doing getting nominated to have a marine research vessel named after them???
yeah, especially since the girl died this week...like, do you really want a constant reminder of that, plus the fact hardly anyone knows the kid, and they did nothing for science...
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You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
One of the support vessels is being called Boaty McBoatface as a tribute
and it's being registered in the Falkland Islands @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
Better they call it David Attenborough than some of the other "real person" choices. One was some kid w/ cancer... I mean, WTF is some sob story kid doing getting nominated to have a marine research vessel named after them???
yeah, especially since the girl died this week...like, do you really want a constant reminder of that, plus the fact hardly anyone knows the kid, and they did nothing for science...
I'm very anti-sob story. everybody has problems, that doesn't make you special.
It fills my heart with joy to know that Boaty McBoatface will be there alongside the big ship
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You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
One of the support vessels is being called Boaty McBoatface as a tribute
and it's being registered in the Falkland Islands @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
Better they call it David Attenborough than some of the other "real person" choices. One was some kid w/ cancer... I mean, WTF is some sob story kid doing getting nominated to have a marine research vessel named after them???
yeah, especially since the girl died this week...like, do you really want a constant reminder of that, plus the fact hardly anyone knows the kid, and they did nothing for science...
I'm very anti-sob story. everybody has problems, that doesn't make you special.
It fills my heart with joy to know that Boaty McBoatface will be there alongside the big ship
yeah same...like, you're basically riding the coat-tails of someone else's misery/reminding yourself of a shit time in your life over and over..? That's verging on a mental illness...
Yeah, a nice tribute at least...
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
One of the support vessels is being called Boaty McBoatface as a tribute
and it's being registered in the Falkland Islands @RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
You'll always be Boaty McBoatface to me.
Better they call it David Attenborough than some of the other "real person" choices. One was some kid w/ cancer... I mean, WTF is some sob story kid doing getting nominated to have a marine research vessel named after them???
yeah, especially since the girl died this week...like, do you really want a constant reminder of that, plus the fact hardly anyone knows the kid, and they did nothing for science...
I'm very anti-sob story. everybody has problems, that doesn't make you special.
It fills my heart with joy to know that Boaty McBoatface will be there alongside the big ship
I'm in the same... wait for it... boat. But kidding aside, while I feel terrible for the girl who died and the family that had to go through it, the reality is is that everyone dies and everyone wants to be honoured or wants their family member honoured or whatever. Only a tiny, tiny percentage of people can get honoured in some special way and shouldn't it be the very few people who earned it?
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Meanwhile, in Latvia: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/offbeat/a-beaver-reportedly-took-a-man-hostage-in-latvia/ar-BBs7qSJ
A lot of hilarity comes out of the Baltic states, except Estonia, they're humourless.
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Keeping it classy, Florida...
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/08/us/man-allegedly-kills-brother-over-cheeseburger/index.html
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I saw that, rebuilt with the original stones (mostly.)
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http://technology.nasa.gov/patents
Good for NASA.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://technology.nasa.gov/patents
Good for NASA.
Sort of. Their site says that their patents "benefits American citizens" but then say that "companies can license them." So basically, they are just acting like any business selling patent licensing. It's not like they are opening their portfolio or using it to promote non-aggression. Really, as a part of the government, they shouldn't even be allowed to have patents and/or their patents should be automatically the property of the nation, not just NASA. I think they are falling short of even a minimally acceptable standard.
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http://technology.nasa.gov/patents
Good for NASA.
Sort of. Their site says that their patents "benefits American citizens" but then say that "companies can license them." So basically, they are just acting like any business selling patent licensing. It's not like they are opening their portfolio or using it to promote non-aggression. Really, as a part of the government, they shouldn't even be allowed to have patents and/or their patents should be automatically the property of the nation, not just NASA. I think they are falling short of even a minimally acceptable standard.
Since NASA only gets about half of one percent of the federal budget, why not let them try to make some more fundage?
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://technology.nasa.gov/patents
Good for NASA.
Sort of. Their site says that their patents "benefits American citizens" but then say that "companies can license them." So basically, they are just acting like any business selling patent licensing. It's not like they are opening their portfolio or using it to promote non-aggression. Really, as a part of the government, they shouldn't even be allowed to have patents and/or their patents should be automatically the property of the nation, not just NASA. I think they are falling short of even a minimally acceptable standard.
Since NASA only gets about half of one percent of the federal budget, why not let them try to make some more fundage?
Half of one percent? Damn it that's why my taxes are so high! Cancel the whole thing!
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@RojoLoco said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
http://technology.nasa.gov/patents
Good for NASA.
Sort of. Their site says that their patents "benefits American citizens" but then say that "companies can license them." So basically, they are just acting like any business selling patent licensing. It's not like they are opening their portfolio or using it to promote non-aggression. Really, as a part of the government, they shouldn't even be allowed to have patents and/or their patents should be automatically the property of the nation, not just NASA. I think they are falling short of even a minimally acceptable standard.
Since NASA only gets about half of one percent of the federal budget, why not let them try to make some more fundage?
Because it isn't fundage, it's limiting what we have paid for only to big companies. It's stuff that the public has already paid for. If only big companies can access it, they are then using our tax dollars to withhold our own technology from us so that they can force us to pay for something we already paid for.
