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Plus there is a ton of documentation to have to go through to do it. Which many people refuse to do. It might be easier to just move around like @scottalanmiller does than to actually change your nationality.
We never really say it, but it's enough that we will likely change our nationality and stop just moving around. Our safety and protection will be heavily compromised in the event that Trump gets elected. We've talked with some friends in a government office about options just last week. Very casual, but we have several options that we are prepared to execute. Living outside of the US will potentially become very dangerous and our ability to return may be revoked.
The fact that hes going to get the nomination really opened my eyes to what our country actually is. I surround myself with what I consider to be good people and I think that shielded me from some of the hard realizations about our country.
What's different for us is that I have been pushing for a change of nationality for a long time. It's about having that extra momentum to reach a tipping point, not the cause of change on its own.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Swiss cheese
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Swiss cheese
Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Swiss cheese
Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously
I'm from NJ. No one seems to know what a Pork Roll is outside of the tri-state area. Used to it
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Swiss cheese
Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously
I'm from NJ. No one seems to know what a Pork Roll is outside of the tri-state area. Used to it
Even in the tri-state, only NJ calls it a pork roll. The rest of the world doesn't care and just thinks of it as generic-SPAM.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Swiss cheese
Emmantal. Only Americans call it Swiss, obviously
I'm from NJ. No one seems to know what a Pork Roll is outside of the tri-state area. Used to it
Even in the tri-state, only NJ calls it a pork roll. The rest of the world doesn't care and just thinks of it as generic-SPAM.
Blasphemy. There is nothing generic about it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
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@wirestyle22 said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.
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Travel to and from the US has traditionally been very easy. However that is one of the things that Trump wants to change.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.
Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.
EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.
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For those considering rapid relocation.... Panama and Albania offer Americans (currently, don't be surprised if this goes away) six months and one year of residency and right to work, no questions asked. Canada and the UK offer six months right to live. France, Spain and Kosovo have some of the friendliest paths to citizenship.
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@wirestyle22 said
+1 to no one actually leaving
I'm keeping a list of my FB friends who say they are moving.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.
Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.
EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.
My wife's family is 6 hours away. We see them once every month or so. My parent's, and an uncle, live 8 miles from where we live now. We see them several times a week.
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@wirestyle22 I love pork roll! Moved to Florida from Jersey.
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@scottalanmiller said in Non-IT News Thread:
For those considering rapid relocation.... Panama and Albania offer Americans (currently, don't be surprised if this goes away) six months and one year of residency and right to work, no questions asked. Canada and the UK offer six months right to live. France, Spain and Kosovo have some of the friendliest paths to citizenship.
What's the job market like it those areas? Specifically IT related jobs.
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
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@coliver said in Non-IT News Thread:
I'd much rather move overseas to Europe at this point. Would need a place with lots of Dairy and lots of IT though.
Dairy is pretty common in Europe. They drink milk just like Americans do. And they don't import it from Asia or anything weird.
Which is funny... because people I know in the industry, connections again, are telling me we export most of our milk as powdered to the Asian markets. I haven't been able to verify that though.
Well sure, because Asia is short of food production. Europe, however, makes a LOT of food. It's an agricultural boom area.
Guess I'll have to keep an eye open then. Moving is hard as we have lots of family in the area.
I can't leave NJ for the same reason. My fiance is very close with her family.
Yep, I'm like your fiance. I spent most of my childhood moving from place-to-place. Didn't have a permanent home until middle school. Thankfully that was in my parent's hometown with lots of family close by.
Between the demands of my job, studying for my CCIE, managing the servers for two doctors offices (friends of mine) and planning for a wedding I don't understand how our families can have any expectations of seeing us in the near future. You'd think they'd at least be coming to us, but no.
EDIT: The real crazy thing too is it's only her family. My brother lives in LA, my dad who lived locally passed away and my mom lives in England. What would we do if we had to appease two families? How do you guys deal with this stuff? I established boundaries for myself but my fiance just does whatever they want. It's rough.
My wife's family is 6 hours away. We see them once every month or so. My parent's, and an uncle, live 8 miles from where we live now. We see them several times a week.
I guess this question would be more for your wife then as I'm in her position. I'm all for family but I don't think that people in our situation (professionally oriented, responsible, extremely busy people) can reasonably accommodate their "needs". Her Dad's retired. Like dude, drive here.
