Gmail, How Do You Run New Filters Against Existing Inbox
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@scottalanmiller said:
Even if I was not getting this volume, if I was getting the kind of volume that @Minion-Queen gets, it would be a problem. You need filters that actually do something to make your Inbox useful. Gmail, even with filters, does nothing, it just dumps everything you filtered out in the Inbox. So saying you "should have had filters" is mean, since I did, and it didn't help. You are belittling the problem by acting like there is a solution that is good, but so far, no one has even proposed one. It's like you are mocking me for having to get email.
No, filters in Gmail apply a label. The archving that isn't really archiving but just moving to another folder is what makes it much smoother. You can argue all you want that Gmail doesn't use the term right or that it shouldn't be that way, but if it makes it work and you know what it takes, isn't it more nonsensical to keep fighting it because of semantics?
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@thanksajdotcom said:
No, filters in Gmail apply a label.
Exactly, which is Gmail just pretending to be useful. It's a joke, right? Who cares if it is labeled? I can't see my email because all this labeled, useless email is in my Inbox!!
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
No, filters in Gmail apply a label.
Exactly, which is Gmail just pretending to be useful. It's a joke, right? Who cares if it is labeled? I can't see my email because all this labeled, useless email is in my Inbox!!
If you open up the label, it will show items with just that label. If you want to MOVE them from the inbox, combine the labeling with the Gmail's archiving option. Problem solved. If you know what fixes it, and you keep arguing that you won't use it because you don't like the term Gmail calls it, that's on you.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
The archving that isn't really archiving but just moving to another folder is what makes it much smoother
Into ONE mailbox..... off somewhere. I don't want it archived, I need it accessible someplace filtered.
I don't even see a folder called archived. Where does that email go?
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I agree that Gmail shouldn't use the term archiving for simply moving it out of the Inbox, but it's you who is hurting yourself for not using it because you don't like the term they use. I understand the irritation at the initial confusion, but now that you've got an understanding, just implement it and move on.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
isn't it more nonsensical to keep fighting it because of semantics?
But Google can't handle archiving. It crashes when I try to do that. I'm archiving everything that I can because it is better to lose the mail than to not be able to find anything useful. But right now that is all Gmail is to me.... a product that is crashing (it crashed Chrome too now!!) and useless.
Yes, better than nothing. That's what I'm doing. But that's where Gmail is, somewhere between nothing and a serious email product.
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@thanksajdotcom said:
If you open up the label, it will show items with just that label. If you want to MOVE them from the inbox, combine the labeling with the Gmail's archiving option. Problem solved. If you know what fixes it, and you keep arguing that you won't use it because you don't like the term Gmail calls it, that's on you.
How do I go into a place that has only the labels for a specific thing? How do I see the archived data?
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@thanksajdotcom said:
I agree that Gmail shouldn't use the term archiving for simply moving it out of the Inbox, but it's you who is hurting yourself for not using it because you don't like the term they use. I understand the irritation at the initial confusion, but now that you've got an understanding, just implement it and move on.
It's not be not using it. I've been saying this for a while. I have 99% of all email set to archive on arrival.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksajdotcom said:
If you open up the label, it will show items with just that label. If you want to MOVE them from the inbox, combine the labeling with the Gmail's archiving option. Problem solved. If you know what fixes it, and you keep arguing that you won't use it because you don't like the term Gmail calls it, that's on you.
How do I go into a place that has only the labels for a specific thing? How do I see the archived data?
The "labels" will show like folders under your inbox on the left side usually. If it's still in the Inbox and you want to see everything with that label, you click on the folder/label nested under the Inbox. The same process is used for mail that's been archived/moved to that folder/label. Remember, Google refers to anything not in the Inbox as archived. So if it's been moved to a specific folder/label and there is no copy in the Inbox, it's archived and you can view it by going to the folder.
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All those other folders are labels, technically. But a label is also a folder. When you archive to a label, it just moves it to that folder and removes it from the Inbox. I have a ton of stuff setup to label and archive automatically.
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They inbox is also just a label.
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Okay, so if I Archive + Label, it will act like a folder, more or less?
What happens if you Archive but don't Label?
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Labels are definitely much better than folders - essentially because you can have multiple labels attached to a single e-mail. After using labels, I find Outlook folders really suck and are a horribly dated concept.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Okay, so if I Archive + Label, it will act like a folder, more or less?
What happens if you Archive but don't Label?
It goes into an All Mail Label which is hidden but searchable. Not the best way of going about it for sure, but at least it would get it out of your inbox.
Edit: It isn't hidden, my mistake it is actually under the More tab at the bottom of your label list.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Labels are definitely much better than folders - essentially because you can have multiple labels attached to a single e-mail. After using labels, I find Outlook folders really suck and are a horribly dated concept.
I would agree conceptually. It is, in theory, no different than the taxonomy of using Sharepoint tags for files instead of putting things into folders. It's not a Google idea, it is just implemented very oddly here (and not working for me.) I've been a proponent of the concept for a long time. But any email system needs to be solid. If it was only a matter of using a tagging system it would be great.
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@Carnival-Boy said:
Labels are definitely much better than folders - essentially because you can have multiple labels attached to a single e-mail. After using labels, I find Outlook folders really suck and are a horribly dated concept.
This is true. Think of Gmail labels like tagging, and Outlook folders like categories in a forum.
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If you go into your settings on the Gmail interface you can actually prevent certain labels from syncing to any devices. Although by default I think only Inbox is synced for Android and iOS.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Okay, so if I Archive + Label, it will act like a folder, more or less?
What happens if you Archive but don't Label?
The message, for all intents just vanishes.... but you can get to mail that is archived with no labels on Gmail by searching for
-label:inbox and has:nouserlabels
That should get you there.
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@dafyre said:
@scottalanmiller said:
Okay, so if I Archive + Label, it will act like a folder, more or less?
What happens if you Archive but don't Label?
The message, for all intents just vanishes.... but you can get to mail that is archived with no labels on Gmail by searching for
-label:inbox and has:nouserlabels
That should get you there.
Or just click all mail as noted above. No need for arcane search syntax.
