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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      @roguepacket Definitely appears to be the case.

      I did a test today, setup a WIn 7 machine with IE 10 (a fully supported setup by the vendor) and we have the same display problem. With a little luck they will finally give me some help to solve this problem.

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      • RoguePacketR
        RoguePacket @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender said:

        @roguepacket Definitely appears to be the case.

        "the case" meaning trying "background:none;" and "background:transparent;"?

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          technobabble
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          Since your are trying to get one result with different browsers, you will have to either do as SAM says or add more CSS code per browser.

          It would be easier to provide support if we had a link to view the actual page (I would use Firefox with Firebug).

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
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            I can't use any other browsers - I must use IE. 90% of our machines are on IE 8. I am now deploying Windows 8.1 machines (with the included IE 11). We will be in a split IE version until approx Sept. after which time I'll be allowed (so I'm told) to push out the update to IE 11 for the remaining machines.

            I still have not tried any of the code snippets provided except for a jscript command which appears to have been ignored.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @technobabble
              last edited by

              @technobabble said:

              Since your are trying to get one result with different browsers, you will have to either do as SAM says or add more CSS code per browser.

              It would be easier to provide support if we had a link to view the actual page (I would use Firefox with Firebug).

              Unfortunately it's an EMR product and you'd have to be logged in first to see the page, so I can't show it to you.

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                technobabble
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                Sorry to hear that. I was looking forward to the challenge in finding the answer!

                <rant> I really dislike programmers who ignore the rest of the browsers. It's called standards, and of all the browsers, IE is the worst offender. In a world with iDevices, Androids you can't expect them to use IE, as it's not available!</rant>

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @RoguePacket
                  last edited by

                  @RoguePacket said:

                  @Dashrender Remove "background", and/or use "none" for that element (err, maybe "transparent" ).

                  replacing #717171 with none did fix this problem.

                  Thanks RP

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @technobabble
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                    @technobabble I'm right there with you. Unfortunately this EMR is probably 5 years old... they started when IE had the controls they felt they needed. Of course today we know that most if not all of them can be replaced with newer HTML 5 code.

                    The vendor claim to support Safari. This leaves me even more confused... why would the product work in Safari, but not FF or Chrome? some kind of back door deal between MS and Apple?

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                      technobabble
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                      Weird as I understand it, webkit is what Safari, FF and Chrome are built with. I feel your pain and wish you good luck! Glad to see you got a fix!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                        @technobabble said:

                        Weird as I understand it, webkit is what Safari, FF and Chrome are built with. I feel your pain and wish you good luck! Glad to see you got a fix!

                        Safari is Webkit. IE is Trident. FF is Gecko and Chrome is just Chrome. Safari is the only main browser using Webkit today but lots of small projects use it but none that you would have heard of. Chrome used it to get started but left it some time ago. FF has never been anything but Gecko.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          Webkit actually came from the KDE project. It was the basis for their browser systems.

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                          • Chamele0nC
                            Chamele0n
                            last edited by Chamele0n

                            Why not just try using the <hr> tag. It create a nice horizontal line and works on all browsers. It's very old school HTML. Been around a long time.

                            It works like like <br> there is no closing tag. http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_hr.asp

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @Chamele0n
                              last edited by

                              @Chamele0n said:

                              Why not just try using the <hr> tag. It create a nice horizontal line and works on all browsers. It's very old school HTML. Been around a long time.

                              It works like like <br> there is no closing tag. http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_hr.asp

                              aw, but it doesn't work any more on IE 10 or 11. I can't say if it works like the old way in FF or Chrome, etc.

                              <hr> had it's definition changed in HTML 5. While it will draw a line (sorta) it looks different than a plain o' black line. And for legal documents that's unacceptable.

                              The above CSS code with the background option changed to none has solved my issue.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                HTML is not a format for legal documents 😉

                                Also, you choose the standard. It's only HTML 5 on those new browsers if you make it that. Use XHTML 1.1 if you want.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  HTML is not a format for legal documents 😉

                                  Also, you choose the standard. It's only HTML 5 on those new browsers if you make it that. Use XHTML 1.1 if you want.

                                  It's all outside my control.

                                  The legal document side is the paper document created by the HTML - (maybe the vendor supports XHTML - who knows).

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                                    technobabble @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller LOL, I was only correct about Safari. Reading what you said about FF an Chrome made me smh! Since there are times I have had to write CSS differently for FF and Chrome! Thanks for pointing out my misinformation!

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                                    • RoguePacketR
                                      RoguePacket @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said:
                                      @technobabble

                                      ....Chrome is just Chrome...

                                      Chrome is using Blink since last year:

                                      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(layout_engine)
                                      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browser_engine
                                      • Also, http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/google-forks-webkit-and-launches-blink-its-own-rendering-engine-that-will-soon-power-chrome-and-chromeos/
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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Ah ha, thanks. I've been a little out of touch as to web browsers the last few years. So Blink is Google's in house developed rendering engine.

                                        MangoLassi runs on Google V8. That's what powers the entire site.

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                                          technobabble @RoguePacket
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                                          @RoguePacket said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:
                                          @technobabble

                                          ....Chrome is just Chrome...

                                          Chrome is using Blink since last year:

                                          • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(layout_engine)
                                          • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_browser_engine
                                          • Also, http://techcrunch.com/2013/04/03/google-forks-webkit-and-launches-blink-its-own-rendering-engine-that-will-soon-power-chrome-and-chromeos/

                                          Thanks for the links: It seems my retention for odd information but not remembering when it was relevant.

                                          From the techcrunch article: "In an unusual move – and after a lot of back and forth between the KHTML team and Apple – Apple announced in 2005 that it would open source WebKit, and Google then adapted it for its Chrome browser. Interestingly, Google actually used a forked version of WebKit in the early days of Chromium but later reconciled its fork with the rest of the project."

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                                          • RoguePacketR
                                            RoguePacket
                                            last edited by RoguePacket

                                            @technobabble

                                            The info is odd. Helps better define "browser issues". In this case it is more clearly seen as architectural decisions made earlier in the software development process.

                                            Meanwhile, "Why can they all just get along?"
                                            =:-o

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