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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Basically... I don't feel that she should be punished, nor should she be rewarded. She should be held accountable like everyone else. She should not get special dispensation for being a "dumb teen". None of her peers will get that. Everyone is accountable for their mistakes. If we give one person a free pass, then we discriminate. If we give no one one, everyone is treated equally.

      There are plenty of people who won't bad mouth the pizza shop who probably want to work there. Why should someone who hates it there get the job when a good employee is losing an opportunity to shine if that girl get hired? If you don't hold her accountable, then you punish someone more deserving instead, that's far worse.

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        MrWright4hire @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        Basically... I don't feel that she should be punished, nor should she be rewarded. She should be held accountable like everyone else. She should not get special dispensation for being a "dumb teen". None of her peers will get that. Everyone is accountable for their mistakes. If we give one person a free pass, then we discriminate. If we give no one one, everyone is treated equally.

        There are plenty of people who won't bad mouth the pizza shop who probably want to work there. Why should someone who hates it there get the job when a good employee is losing an opportunity to shine if that girl get hired? If you don't hold her accountable, then you punish someone more deserving instead, that's far worse.

        Scott I think in some awkward aspect, we are saying the same thing in a different way. lol! I agree with you that she do not need to be giving any special treatment. I take that back. She should get special treatment and discrimination should take place. If given the chance, she should have to work extra hard to show that she really wants to work. Note, there is a difference between offering a "free pass" as oppose to offering another, yet hard to earned, opportunity.
        Without opportunities, no one would be good enough to show that they have grown. Point and example...you. You learn from your mistake and you're a better man, in my opinion as well as a great mentor. Without opportunities, you could be a lot more behind then you say you are. Maybe still at ground zero in Detroit.

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        • scottalanmillerS
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          The real problem here is that what she did is pretty huge from an employer perspective. This is going to make every subsequent entry level job that much harder to get. Especially being in a not huge town.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            What is extra funny is that this is Jet's Pizza in Mansfield, a town where lots of @dominica's family resides and is a place in Texas where we go all of the time. I'm totally going to stop there now and eat at this famous pizza place!

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              P.S. I still love my big brotha in you Scott! lol! No Homo!

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              • DominicaD
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                I think in a lot of ways this was a good thing for this kid, depending on how she handles it from here. If she learned her lesson about social media, and how what you put up on the internet is there to haunt you forever more, this is a fairly mild way to learn that lesson. If she was smart, she would put together an assembly for her peers about the consequences of tweeting or Facebooking before you think. She could easily become a role model and public speaker, if she went the mature direction here.

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                • Reid CooperR
                  Reid Cooper
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                  Thankfully for her this is really a "fifteen minutes of fame" kind of thing. She removed her Twitter account and it never had her full name. As long as she isn't in her home town doing certain types of jobs she will be quickly forgotten and this has the potential to be nothing but a blip in her job history and a good learning opportunity. She really did little real damage to herself outside of not getting a paycheck this week and feeling like an idiot, if she even realizes what a dumb move it was.

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                  • Reid CooperR
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                    That she deleted her account suggests that she figured out that it was not the wisest thing to have posted.

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                    • tonyshowoffT
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                      Does anyone else remember the bizzare era when using your real name, or even real photos, online was considered the biggest no-no, worst possible thing you could ever do? They would tell young people not to do this constantly, it's sort of weird how now thanks to people like Mark Zuckerberg who want everyone to use their real names everywhere (completely psychotic), there's now a strange disconnection, people think the only humans that can read what they are are those who they directly know.

                      Don't use your real name, then complain about your job all you want. Whatever happened to being anonymous? Why did we go from "OMFG YOU TOLD HIM/HER YOUR REAL NAME, THAT WAS STUPID, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM!!@" to "yeah sure here's my real name, everyone I'm related to (all tagged in photographs), all my interests, my entire life history, etc."

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                      • nadnerBN
                        nadnerB @tonyshowoff
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                        @tonyshowoff said:

                        Does anyone else remember the bizzare era when using your real name, or even real photos, online was considered the biggest no-no, worst possible thing you could ever do? They would tell young people not to do this constantly, it's sort of weird how now thanks to people like Mark Zuckerberg who want everyone to use their real names everywhere (completely psychotic), there's now a strange disconnection, people think the only humans that can read what they are are those who they directly know.

                        Don't use your real name, then complain about your job all you want. Whatever happened to being anonymous? Why did we go from "OMFG YOU TOLD HIM/HER YOUR REAL NAME, THAT WAS STUPID, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM!!@" to "yeah sure here's my real name, everyone I'm related to (all tagged in photographs), all my interests, my entire life history, etc."

                        Believe it or not, I'm not really an owl and nadnerB isn't my real name 😛

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @nadnerB
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                          @nadnerB said:

                          Believe it or not, I'm not really an owl and nadnerB isn't my real name 😛

                          O Rly?

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                          • nadnerBN
                            nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            O Rly?

                            ya-rly-owl.jpg

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