Snowstorm in Syracuse
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Hate to tell you this but you're flat out wrong. You will find just as diehard fans of the Bills in Syracuse and Utica as Buffalo, and not just one or two. The Bills are still very popular with cities across Central and Eastern NY. The idea that they have nothing to do with Syracuse is not right. You're not a sports fan Scott. I think I have a little more knowledge on this considering you have never followed sports.
I'm not talking sports, just talking about the socio-economic ties between the cities. I grew up in Rochester and Buffalo and they very much do think of themselves as one region (they were the 716 for nearly a century together) and Syracuse is far away and a different place.
I will agree with this, going to school there locals thought that driving to Syracuse was like going to the moon. When I told them I drove 2.5-3 hours past that weekly they were flabbergasted.
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I think I should block newyorkjets.com with our SonicWall
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
Hate to tell you this but you're flat out wrong. You will find just as diehard fans of the Bills in Syracuse and Utica as Buffalo, and not just one or two. The Bills are still very popular with cities across Central and Eastern NY. The idea that they have nothing to do with Syracuse is not right. You're not a sports fan Scott. I think I have a little more knowledge on this considering you have never followed sports.
I'm not talking sports, just talking about the socio-economic ties between the cities. I grew up in Rochester and Buffalo and they very much do think of themselves as one region (they were the 716 for nearly a century together) and Syracuse is far away and a different place.
I don't disagree that Rochester and Buffalo are linked. But you said that they think of themselves as totally separate from Syracuse. That's just not true.
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@IRJ said:
@thanksaj said:
Ok, the Jets' training camp is in Cortland.
Not according to their website
It might be their offseason training camp.
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According to the CBS poll, 57% of people feel that the Jets are an NJ team.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/01/18/border-war-which-state-truly-owns-the-jets/ -
@scottalanmiller said:
According to the CBS poll, 57% of people feel that the Jets are an NJ team.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/01/18/border-war-which-state-truly-owns-the-jets/I don't give a damn about the Jets. No one likes them anyways. Just don't bring my Giants into this!
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NJ Governor wants to remind you that both are NJ teams.
I've lived in both states and let me tell you, they are NJ teams. NYers are posing if they try to claim them in any way. They are associated with Newark and Newark has both the location and the spirit to call them their hometown team.
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@thanksaj said:
@scottalanmiller said:
According to the CBS poll, 57% of people feel that the Jets are an NJ team.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/01/18/border-war-which-state-truly-owns-the-jets/I don't give a damn about the Jets. No one likes them anyways. Just don't bring my Giants into this!
Aren't they basically the same? They pull from the same stock and play at the same field.
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@thanksaj said:
I don't give a damn about the Jets. No one likes them anyways. Just don't bring my Giants into this!
Not your Giants
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
I don't give a damn about the Jets. No one likes them anyways. Just don't bring my Giants into this!
Not your Giants
You should move to NJ.NJ and NYC are pretty much joined at the hip anyways, so if the stadium is just across the border, so what?
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Technically I live slightly closer to the Jacksonville Jaguars
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@coliver said:
Aren't they basically the same? They pull from the same stock and play at the same field.
LOL, that's all of American football. It's one company with franchises that trade people around. It's a weird "single pool, single firm" entity. It's like having the "world frying championship" held only at different McDonald's franchise locations.
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@thanksaj said:
NJ and NYC are pretty much joined at the hip anyways, so if the stadium is just across the border, so what?
So.... it's NJ not NYC. Or are you saying that they should be the Ontario Bills? Most teams live near a border. But there is a border. That's the point of a border. They are IN NJ, in an area that is not far from NYC. You don't even consider NYC part of NY anyway, making it that much weirder. It is downstate, not upstate, that has some ties with NJ.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@thanksaj said:
NJ and NYC are pretty much joined at the hip anyways, so if the stadium is just across the border, so what?
So.... it's NJ not NYC. Or are you saying that they should be the Ontario Bills? Most teams live near a border. But there is a border. That's the point of a border. They are IN NJ, in an area that is not far from NYC. You don't even consider NYC part of NY anyway, making it that much weirder. It is downstate, not upstate, that has some ties with NJ.
I am not denying that the Buffalo Bills are the only true NY team. No one in NY denies that. But we don't judge the Giants for playing in East Rutherford. I wish they played on NY turf officially, but they are still my team.
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For upstaters to associate with the Giants blows my mind. It's not just that they are from NJ, but NJ isn't remotely associated with upstate NY. Upstaters hate NYC. And NJ even more as it lies beyond that. NJ is the last possible place that you would catch a NYer claiming to associate with. Except in American football. Suddenly upstaters pretend they are downstaters who are, in turn, pretending that the normal border between NY and NJ isn't there. And let me tell you, in every other aspect of life, no border in America is more significant.
Watch How I Met Your Mother for several episodes that highlight the NY/NJ relationship. NYers hate NJ. Two culturally different places. Two different worlds. Different regions, different histories, different cultures.
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You'd actually think that the Bills and the Giants would be the big arch rivals, not the Bills and Miami, because of the natural NY/NJ rivalry. The Giants and the Jets are the natural "anti-NJ" teams. Miami's only claim to rivalry is that it used to be a city approximately the same size as Buffalo... until Buffalo shrank and Miami grew and now they are really far apart in size.
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@scottalanmiller said:
You'd actually think that the Bills and the Giants would be the big arch rivals, not the Bills and Miami, because of the natural NY/NJ rivalry. The Giants and the Jets are the natural "anti-NJ" teams. Miami's only claim to rivalry is that it used to be a city approximately the same size as Buffalo... until Buffalo shrank and Miami grew and now they are really far apart in size.
I don't understand why people would have been giving him shit for a Dolphins jersey. People in Central NY have always had respect for the only team with a perfect season. We aren't in the same conference and aren't rivals...weird...
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When the Giants played the Patriots in the Super Bowl a few years ago, and killed their almost perfect season, you know all the Dolphins fans were Giants fans for a night.
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@scottalanmiller I don't disagree that Upstate NYers HATE downstate. There are TWO NYs. Non-NYers don't know this, but we do. However, sports has a funny effect on people. Ever seen Remember the Titans? That is not an exaggeration for the power of sports on people.
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I don't really care where they play as long as they keep buying our goal posts.
