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    Small Business Server 2003 to 2012 R2 Migration and Virtualized Domain Controller Questions

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by

      You have at least 15 days if not longer before this server will start shutting down on it's own. Give yourself plenty of time to make sure all things work.

      Did you setup DHCP for the client computers?

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      • Bill KindleB
        Bill Kindle
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        Definitely wait a little while. My rule of thumb is no less than a week, even in really small environments. Gives me enough time to verify that there are no replication issues going on.

        Garak is giving me some 70-410 practice over on another forum 🙂

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        • garak0410G
          garak0410
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          It's looking good y'all! I'm gonna buy everyone pizza or coffee when this is done!

          The next step on my list is this:

          •Transfer FSMO Roles to new Server 2012 R2 Domain Controller
          â—¾Transfer all 5 or one at a time and start demoting your old Server 2003 DC's in the next step. But the key to remember is to NOT demote any of the current domain controllers that have any of your FSMO roles on them. Be sure to transfer them off first before proceeding to DC demotion.
          â—¾http://blogs.technet.com/b/canitpro/archive/2013/05/27/step-by-step-active-directory-migration-from-windows-server-2003-to-windows-server-2012.aspx

          Stick with this?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said:

            You have at least 15 days if not longer before this server will start shutting down on it's own. Give yourself plenty of time to make sure all things work.

            90 days I think. Need to look that up.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              And the timer doesn't start when this one is added. It starts when the FSMO roles are moved.

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410
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                OK, so what is really recommended next? Run off both DC's for a good while? Since my old DC was my file server as well, I am wanting to get that moved. So perhaps move on to that this Friday evening. That is where the DHCP may come into play. And changing some of our messy VBA apps code to point to new file server.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410
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                  Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

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                  • NetworkNerdN
                    NetworkNerd @garak0410
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                    @garak0410 said:

                    Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                    Something like this should suffice: robocopy /mir /sec /secfix "source" "destination"

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                      @garak0410 said:

                      Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                      It will keep permissions.

                      What do you mean by echoing a server name?

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @garak0410
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                        @garak0410 said:

                        Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                        I am running a robocopy from an old file server to a new one right now. I have been slowly robycopying everything over to the new server. Yes it will keep all the permissions.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @garak0410
                          last edited by

                          @garak0410 said:

                          Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                          After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said:

                            @garak0410 said:

                            Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                            After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

                            CNAME (alias) he means.

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @IRJ said:

                              @garak0410 said:

                              Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                              After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

                              CNAME (alias) he means.

                              yeah exactly. Its been a long day

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IRJ said:

                                @garak0410 said:

                                Most people have said just ROBOCOPY the files from the old file server (in this case, SBS 2003) to the new one (2012 R2 Virtual Machine) and it will keep the permissions intact and echo the different server name...correct?

                                After you decommission the old server, just create a DNS forwarder. That will forward all requests for the Old Server name to the New Server Name

                                CNAME (alias) he means.

                                yeah exactly. Its been a long day

                                Heck...that makes my life easier for now. I could even complete this tonight if I didn't have to play Soccer Dad.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  I told you about using the CNAME process at the beginning of this process 😉

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                                  • garak0410G
                                    garak0410
                                    last edited by

                                    My RoboCopy tests have proven to be good so far. I see the domain level permissions! 🙂

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      I told you about using the CNAME process at the beginning of this process 😉

                                      My memory is fading when I spend 2 hours trying to explain to our office manager why scanning in a 500 page project in our copier make it run out of memory and I cannot change that fact... 😞

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
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                                        You can only use the CNAME after you turn off the old server.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender
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                                          Don't forget, before you turn off the old server you should DCPromo it to remove it from the Active Directory. Then you can turn it off and delete the records from the DNS server.

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410
                                            last edited by

                                            These are the steps I have left in the list I've collated over the past few months:

                                            		§ Transfer FSMO Roles to new Server 2012 R2 Domain Controller
                                            			â–¡ Transfer all 5 or one at a time and start demoting your old Server 2003 DC's in the next step. But the key to remember is to NOT demote any of the current domain controllers that have any of your FSMO roles on them. Be sure to transfer them off first before proceeding to DC demotion.
                                            			â–¡ http://blogs.technet.com/b/canitpro/archive/2013/05/27/step-by-step-active-directory-migration-from-windows-server-2003-to-windows-server-2012.aspx
                                            		§ Demote old Server 2003 Domain Controllers
                                            			â–¡ Run dcpromo and follow steps.
                                            				® Remember: Do NOT demote any domain controller that does not have FSMO roles on them.
                                            			â–¡ http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc740017%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
                                            		§ Raise Domain Functional Level
                                            			â–¡ Raise the functional level by opening Active Directory Domains and Trusts. Then right click on domain and trusts and select "Raise Forest Functional Level"
                                            			â–¡ http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc730985.aspx
                                            		§ Migration Complete! :)
                                            
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