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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech @jt1001001
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      @jt1001001 I have always regarded TP Link as consumer grade garbage... am I wrong?

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      • jt1001001J
        jt1001001 @CCWTech
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        @CCWTech The Omada products "mirror" Ubiquiti; so much so that I wonder if they stole Ubiquiti's interface? They use a model of hardware controller; self hosted software controller, or their cloud controller; that model requiring a license per device per year. I have some demo hardware at my office we're just getting set up to play with I'll let you know the results later this week. You can have super administrators with access to all sites and an admin per site.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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          @jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

          @CCWTech The Omada products "mirror" Ubiquiti; so much so that I wonder if they stole Ubiquiti's interface? They use a model of hardware controller; self hosted software controller, or their cloud controller; that model requiring a license per device per year. I have some demo hardware at my office we're just getting set up to play with I'll let you know the results later this week. You can have super administrators with access to all sites and an admin per site.

          Now that is honestly promising.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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            @jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

            My company is looking at TP-Link's Omada line, I'll have a demo with them set up for next week; will let you all know

            Oh wow, that looks super interesting. Check out those prices!

            I want to get some to try.

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            • dbeatoD
              dbeato @CCWTech
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              @CCWTech They haven't been garbage for a while. Their switches have been one of the most reliable I have had .

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              • jt1001001J
                jt1001001 @jt1001001
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                One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @jt1001001
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                  @jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                  One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.

                  Ouch,.. but so does Ubnt controller Iirc.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @jt1001001
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                    @jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                    One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.

                    For the controller, I don't see that as a problem. My preferred way to do it, obviously not. But it's not bad at all. Java on the server has always been good, just extra effort. But this is Java's wheelhouse. Java on the CLIENT, that's insane. Java should never be used for a GUI.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                      @jt1001001 said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                      One bad mark already (well,for me anyways) right off the bat; the software controller requires Java.

                      Ouch,.. but so does Ubnt controller Iirc.

                      Yeah, hence the suspicion that it was copied.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                        @dbeato said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                        @CCWTech They haven't been garbage for a while. Their switches have been one of the most reliable I have had .

                        I have a few here in Nicaragua in my house for our PoE distribution.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch
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                          but server side Java is where java supposed to be. It is not like a desktop app requiring java.

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                          • AdamFA
                            AdamF
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                            I was looking at the Omada line recently too. I still have not found a direct replacement for the EdgeRouter lineup. Which is a real shame, because they are such great devices. Then I found Omada on a blog somewhere but haven't pulled the trigger on getting a unit to try. I might have to though, as I have been waiting for an EdgeRouter 4 for over a year or more.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @AdamF
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                              @AdamF said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                              I was looking at the Omada line recently too. I still have not found a direct replacement for the EdgeRouter lineup. Which is a real shame, because they are such great devices. Then I found Omada on a blog somewhere but haven't pulled the trigger on getting a unit to try. I might have to though, as I have been waiting for an EdgeRouter 4 for over a year or more.

                              I don't have a good replacement for the EdgeRouter line either.

                              The Omada/TP_Link switches and wifi are fine replacements for Ubiquiti gear.

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                              • jt1001001J
                                jt1001001 @JaredBusch
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                                As @JaredBusch said the Omada line is a good replacement for the Ubiquiti's Uni-Fi line. The controller interface is almost identical. Product is good and can be managed from a controller that is a physical box; or a software controller that runs on Windows or Linux or they have a cloud offering they run. Set up is similar to the adoption process of Ubiquiti. The router solution they have is definintely NOT a replacement for the Edgerouer; more consumer looking that pro looking. I'll continue to play with it as our company's looking to resell this line shortly.
                                I did see the Ubiquiti has EdgeRouter 12's in stock but pricing is higher than the 4's

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                                • AdamFA
                                  AdamF
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                                  In reading through the UI forums, specifically this gentlemen's post, it does not look promising.

                                  https://community.ui.com/questions/Edgemax-availability-update/ce4d56ad-5e22-424e-90fb-473b671e5438#answer/b274b1b2-5c4b-4cc1-b361-85ca148d6ed7

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @AdamF
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                                    @AdamF said in Unifi cloud controller going the way of home office?:

                                    In reading through the UI forums, specifically this gentlemen's post, it does not look promising.

                                    https://community.ui.com/questions/Edgemax-availability-update/ce4d56ad-5e22-424e-90fb-473b671e5438#answer/b274b1b2-5c4b-4cc1-b361-85ca148d6ed7

                                    UniFi and EdgeMax are completely different things and always have been.

                                    In the spirit of the exception to prove the rule, the first USG was just a ERL with different firmware/OS. But again, the exception.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      UniFi gear is generally still available, with no issues.

                                      The UniFi Controller is a hot pile of shit compared to how it used to be (IMO), but not a horrible solution.

                                      The real failure of the UniFi controller is simply the use case of not sharing the super admin password.

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                                      • gjacobseG
                                        gjacobse
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                                        Curious about the Omada ER605v2 router as a replacement to my ERL…

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                                        • CCWTechC
                                          CCWTech @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch It is just amazing that the user control isn't adequate. This so easily COULD be a great product for MSP's, but their failure to develop (and even worse, they are removing features) that allow you to administer user control.

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                                          • jt1001001J
                                            jt1001001 @gjacobse
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                                            @gjacobse I'm setting one up in our lab today and as a basic SMB router with VPN capabilities its OK. Compared to an ER-L I'd probably stick with the EdgeRouter.

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