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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
I always sign offer and wait for background check, drug screen, etc BEFORE I put my notice in
Heck yeah. Everything has to be totally finalized before I'll consider it.
Well, I got another offer from a different company. Same pay range. System Admin role, so I'll be managing/maintaining all their systems. First system admin role. Pretty excited about this one as it's exactly what I've been looking for. And I got an actual offer this time. Submitted drug test and background check today, and signed the offer. Once it's validated, then I will let my current employer know. I would hate to retract 2 resignations. lol.
Congrats!
And go get this book...
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
And go get this book...
Got it! Can't wait to read it! Thanks!
Sweet, thanks!!!
Two months still
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Alright, I’ve been quiet about this but I got the official offer tonight but I’m hesitant. The reason(s) are below-
A tech recruiter reached out about a local travel agency (bought out by a global travel agency) is looking for a contract/temp to hire : job duties are imaging ~500 PC to migrate from the current domain to the new setup - local users working through VPN. Once that project finishes up, move to help desk for the remainder of the contract. Guaranteed 40 hours/week.
The tech recruiting company will pay 25/hour , no paid days off, add me to their insurance (which looks to be roughly the same as I got now) for 6 months. After the 6 months, if not sooner, the company I’d be temping for would hire me into the help desk. I’d start from help desk, and as I progressed through help desk could land me a Sys admin position within the company.
My thinking is :
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contract to hire ( nothing says that once I’m done, they will hire me)
There is no security for the temp when going into these jobs, from what I’ve noticed / heard.
Working help desk - no phone calls emails only.
No paid time off or sick time (important when you have a child and your on your own on the weeks you have him. )
No overtime- they won’t pay me over time. After 40 im done for the week.
I’ve officially moved into the Admin role for the Brink PoS - the other guy officially retired
If it doesn’t work out, im screwed. I feel like it’s a gamble especially with it being temporary.Pros-
Gets me away from the current job.
Gives me more industry based skills / experiences.
No on call.
+~$6.00 an hour.
No urgent requests that require immediate attention (at least during the imaging process)
Closer to home and sons school.
More industry based knowledge- VPN, 2- factor auto setup, Soft phone setup (on PCs) , email management exposure, actually doing things the right way.I guess this is more of a post to see the opinion of the community. Ideas, opinions, thoughts?
No decision has been made yet.They came back and reoffered me this position. Said they have someone already working but they need to add another person.
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Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
The only thing I see is moving laterally to another entry level position after 4 years experience in help desk..
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
I feel like shitty employer isn't a reason to do anything out of fear or just to get out. For me accepting a new role is always a well calculated decision. Sure, he should make the decision that he's gonna leave his current employer. That's an easy one to make.
However, the decision of choosing the new role needs to be well thought out and calculated as a career move. Not a knee jerk reaction.
If someone truly devoted themselves to finding a job in 6 weeks, you can do it if you have the actual skill set required for your new role. In 6 weeks time you should have received several offers.
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
The only thing I see is moving laterally to another entry level position after 4 years experience in help desk..
At some point, that's the right thing to do. If you could make a truly lateral career move, but into a better employer, that's a huge win. You know that your current company provides no training, no mentoring, no upward mobility, no future. You have to protect your current situation because of familiar needs, so high risk isn't an option. But a lateral move where you can kind of start over to move up is a big deal.
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
The only thing I see is moving laterally to another entry level position after 4 years experience in help desk..
At some point, that's the right thing to do. If you could make a truly lateral career move, but into a better employer, that's a huge win. You know that your current company provides no training, no mentoring, no upward mobility, no future. You have to protect your current situation because of familiar needs, so high risk isn't an option. But a lateral move where you can kind of start over to move up is a big deal.
That's what the Recuiter is telling me this job is - based on everything you said (no future, no mentoring, no upward)
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
I feel like shitty employer isn't a reason to do anything out of fear or just to get out. For me accepting a new role is always a well calculated decision. Sure, he should make the decision that he's gonna leave his current employer. That's an easy one to make.
However, the decision of choosing the new role needs to be well thought out and calculated as a career move. Not a knee jerk reaction.
If someone truly devoted themselves to finding a job in 6 weeks, you can do it if you have the actual skill set required for your new role. In 6 weeks time you should have received several offers.
Yeah, that makes sense - I'm taking the weekend to consider the offer.
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My thought is - even with over time last year my taxable income was around 44k - so getting up closer to 50k in a company that can give me a different experience and has a growth plan, and gives me the opportunity to move up within the company would be better than what I'm doing now - the benefits will stay the same but more money coming back to me..
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@scottalanmiller said in Job offer:
Has anything changed to make you feel it is worth accepting now when it wasn't a few days ago?
I feel like shitty employer isn't a reason to do anything out of fear or just to get out. For me accepting a new role is always a well calculated decision. Sure, he should make the decision that he's gonna leave his current employer. That's an easy one to make.
However, the decision of choosing the new role needs to be well thought out and calculated as a career move. Not a knee jerk reaction.
If someone truly devoted themselves to finding a job in 6 weeks, you can do it if you have the actual skill set required for your new role. In 6 weeks time you should have received several offers.
This. ↑↑↑
Is it really a calculated career move after 4 years experience in this position? Is it possible to find something better than a lateral move if you give it month or two?
Changing job is like moving. It requires a certain amount of work and energy. It will probably take a while before you're going to change again. Actually 2.8 years on average for most people that are not at the end of their career or in management.
So take that into account when you consider the offer. It might not seem like it, but you're making a commitment for a couple of years and your pay is going to stay more or less the same more during that time.
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Also remember you only need to hit about 60-70% of the job description. And you can get a much better job after only about 6 months at a new job. Keep track of your accomplishments and continuously learn and improve.
