Windows 8.x - Defender or other AV?
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@Dashrender said:
@garak0410 said:
But yes, at work, I do use a "suite" and just by installing it, it disables Defender...
How do you know it's disabled?
I simply try to run Defender after installing our "suite" and it shows this:
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@ajstringham said:
MSE is, even by Microsoft's own admission, not adequate.
This is not true. I really wish people would stop saying it. The statement by a MS Rep was that MSE should be considered a baseline that is the minimal that any AV company should shoot for.
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@Dashrender said:
@ajstringham said:
MSE is, even by Microsoft's own admission, not adequate.
This is not true. I really wish people would stop saying it. The statement by a MS Rep was that MSE should be considered a baseline that is the minimal that any AV company should shoot for.
Reading that, it tells me they are saying "we're the bottom of the barrel, just barely good enough". I disagree. MSE is not good.
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We know you disagree. But other than misleading use cases, outdated statements of a former product or a religious conviction against the product - why is it bad? Every argument against it relies on non-applicable data to make its case.
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I've never heard a current, rational argument for why Defender isn't good enough. I think this is one if those products that is plagued by poor marketing that left it open to the irrational sectarianism that happens in IT.
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@scottalanmiller said:
I've never heard a current, rational argument for why Defender isn't good enough. I think this is one if those products that is plagued by poor marketing that left it open to the irrational sectarianism that happens in IT.
Thanks I was looking for some way to say that, and all I could come up with was some comparison about how the non best product (possibly lowest baseline) is still widely excepted and used in a lot of cases (look at cheap cars).
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That said, I still hold my irrational bias against AMD CPUs.
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I have used Defender for both my client's personal and business PCs using W8.x.
I also used Live Care and personally have followed the Microsoft Anti-spyware/Defender product since beta. The only malware my family and I ever got was while running as Admin or stupidly clicking on phishing attempts or "borrowing music" from file sharing services.
Personally I offer Vipre with GFI Max for businesses and make them run as standard users. I supplement both Vipre and Defender with Malwarebytes Pro for those who run as Admins which are residential and hard to deal with micro businesses.
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@technobabble said:
I have used Defender for both my client's personal and business PCs using W8.x.
I also used Live Care and personally have followed the Microsoft Anti-spyware/Defender product since beta. The only malware my family and I ever got was while running as Admin or stupidly clicking on phishing attempts or "borrowing music" from file sharing services.
Personally I offer Vipre with GFI Max for businesses and make them run as standard users. I supplement both Vipre and Defender with Malwarebytes Pro for those who run as Admins which are residential and hard to deal with micro businesses.
Love MBAM Pro. I was able to get a lifetime license for $15 around two years ago. LOVE IT!
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Now it is $25/year.
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@scottalanmiller said:
Now it is $25/year.
It was that price then. I got it on sale on Newegg. Daily Deal FTW!
