BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal
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I have installed Fedora Workstation a few times new since Fedora 33 came out.
It defaults to using BTRFS.
But I just installed Fedora 33 Server Minimal from the Netinstall ISO (
Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-33-1.2.iso) for the first time. and it defaulted to using LVM still.
For my usage of the systems, I do not care which filesystem is in use. I was just surprised to see it different between the two.
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I think it makes sense. BTRFS is great for a workstation, but questionable as a server default. On a server, I want LVM + XFS most of the time.
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Considering Red Hat’s affinity for Stratis, I’m unsure when we’d BTRFS in Fedora’s server product.
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@EddieJennings said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
Considering Red Hat’s affinity for Stratis, I’m unsure when we’d BTRFS in Fedora’s server product.
But why would that stop Fedora Server to default to BTRFS? Red Hat pick and choose what they will implement in their product.
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@black3dynamite said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
@EddieJennings said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
Considering Red Hat’s affinity for Stratis, I’m unsure when we’d BTRFS in Fedora’s server product.
But why would that stop Fedora Server to default to BTRFS? Red Hat pick and choose what they will implement in their product.
It wouldn't necessarily stop it. I don't know how much of a hand Red Hat has in dictating what's on Fedora's roadmap. I've understood Stratis and BTRFS to be competing technologies (may be wrong with that), so perhaps this is spelling the eventual end for Stratis.
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@EddieJennings said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
I don't know how much of a hand Red Hat has in dictating what's on Fedora's roadmap.
They own it, they can dictate what they want.
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@scottalanmiller said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
@EddieJennings said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
I don't know how much of a hand Red Hat has in dictating what's on Fedora's roadmap.
They own it, they can dictate what they want.
That's what I thought.
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@EddieJennings said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
Considering Red Hat’s affinity for Stratis, I’m unsure when we’d BTRFS in Fedora’s server product.
There's also a maturity consideration. BtrFS is some good stuff, but it's still immature. Stratis is just an automation and communication layer for XFS and LVM, arguably the most mature components on the enterprise storage market. So Stratis is mostly just taking what we were already advising and codifying it in a fashion.
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@scottalanmiller said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
@EddieJennings said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
Considering Red Hat’s affinity for Stratis, I’m unsure when we’d BTRFS in Fedora’s server product.
There's also a maturity consideration. BtrFS is some good stuff, but it's still immature. Stratis is just an automation and communication layer for XFS and LVM, arguably the most mature components on the enterprise storage market. So Stratis is mostly just taking what we were already advising and codifying it in a fashion.
True. Not to derail the topic, but I remember during my RHCSA prep wondering what the value of Stratis was if you already had a good understanding of LVM and XFS.
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@scottalanmiller said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
Stratis is just an automation and communication layer for XFS and LVM
I did not know that.
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@black3dynamite said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
@scottalanmiller said in BTRFS is not default on Fedora 33 Server Minimal:
Stratis is just an automation and communication layer for XFS and LVM
I did not know that.
I didn't either, was just researching it, lol. It makes it a lot more valuable, it is essentially taking the "one filesystem" advantages of ZFS or BtrFS and making them happen with traditional, mature technologies. Kind of a best of both worlds approach. Actually quite nice, if it works well.
