Windows 10 VM



  • Hi,
    What is the best way to install Windows 10 VM (VMware)? I will use it to run POS interface with Oracle Client.
    Should I install like a physical box or image an existing clean physical box and reactivate w/ new license?



  • @AshKetchum
    Is this VMWare Workstation or ESXi? You'll need a retail key on ESXi for sure... probably on Workstation as well, but I'm sure that someone else will chime in on that aspect since I've nudged the licensing door open. I would never try to clone over a P2V for a workstation if you don't have to. Just a fresh install as a VM.



  • You'd definitely not install physical first them P2V, that's several extra steps and places for things to get weird. Just do a normal, every day ISO install directly on ESXi. It's exactly the same as installing physical, but without the need to P2V and re-activate.



  • Plus your drives need to change, and the licenses are unlikely to be valid in both places.



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    so i found this on microsoft.com. is this the best way to buy license or i get can cheaper on amazon?



  • @notverypunny said in Windows 10 VM:

    @AshKetchum
    Is this VMWare Workstation or ESXi? You'll need a retail key on ESXi for sure... probably on Workstation as well, but I'm sure that someone else will chime in on that aspect since I've nudged the licensing door open. I would never try to clone over a P2V for a workstation if you don't have to. Just a fresh install as a VM.

    Plus, this is almost always a license infringement. You can do it, but according to the licensing, you are supposed to use Windows Server+CALs



  • @travisdh1 said in Windows 10 VM:

    @notverypunny said in Windows 10 VM:

    @AshKetchum
    Is this VMWare Workstation or ESXi? You'll need a retail key on ESXi for sure... probably on Workstation as well, but I'm sure that someone else will chime in on that aspect since I've nudged the licensing door open. I would never try to clone over a P2V for a workstation if you don't have to. Just a fresh install as a VM.

    Plus, this is almost always a license infringement. You can do it, but according to the licensing, you are supposed to use Windows Server+CALs

    He's asking about his POS interface, not server. No server or CALs required unless it is a server.



  • @AshKetchum said in Windows 10 VM:

    74fe96f5-d7b4-480c-ac0e-ad93c2ade81c-image.png

    so i found this on microsoft.com. is this the best way to buy license or i get can cheaper on amazon?

    Anything much cheaper is going to be pirated and you might as well not buy anything at all at that point. The price is basically the price.

    However, normally you want to buy via the Volume License store as the version that you are looking at don't provide the option to virtualize them. So they won't do you any good. You need the VL license with SA.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 VM:

    However, normally you want to buy via the Volume License store as the version that you are looking at don't provide the option to virtualize them. So they won't do you any good. You need the VL license with SA.

    Which is even more expensive 😉



  • @Dashrender said in Windows 10 VM:

    @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 VM:

    However, normally you want to buy via the Volume License store as the version that you are looking at don't provide the option to virtualize them. So they won't do you any good. You need the VL license with SA.

    Which is even more expensive 😉

    Not than Server + CAL



  • @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 VM:

    However, normally you want to buy via the Volume License store as the version that you are looking at don't provide the option to virtualize them. So they won't do you any good. You need the VL license with SA.

    You need a minimum quantity of 5 for VL (you could buy 4 more Windows anything), assuming this is your first time purchasing Windows. Or is that only an Open Value requirement?



  • @FATeknollogee said in Windows 10 VM:

    @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 VM:

    However, normally you want to buy via the Volume License store as the version that you are looking at don't provide the option to virtualize them. So they won't do you any good. You need the VL license with SA.

    You need a minimum quantity of 5 for VL (you could buy 4 more Windows anything), assuming this is your first time purchasing Windows. Or is that only an Open Value requirement?

    I think it applies to everything. But five of anything, yeah.



  • @scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 VM:

    @travisdh1 said in Windows 10 VM:

    @notverypunny said in Windows 10 VM:

    @AshKetchum
    Is this VMWare Workstation or ESXi? You'll need a retail key on ESXi for sure... probably on Workstation as well, but I'm sure that someone else will chime in on that aspect since I've nudged the licensing door open. I would never try to clone over a P2V for a workstation if you don't have to. Just a fresh install as a VM.

    Plus, this is almost always a license infringement. You can do it, but according to the licensing, you are supposed to use Windows Server+CALs

    He's asking about his POS interface, not server. No server or CALs required unless it is a server.

    Ah, interface, not the database. Oops.



  • Yap, hopefully, I only need to get 1 license. As if I need to buy more, I might just need to use one of my physical workstations here instead of VM.



  • @AshKetchum said in Windows 10 VM:

    Yap, hopefully, I only need to get 1 license. As if I need to buy more, I might just need to use one of my physical workstations here instead of VM.

    Using a physical workstation for remote Windows 10 is almost always better than trying to go down the VDI route. VDI licensing is draconian and onerous and it's only really useful in special circumstances.

    If you can avoid Windows, the VDI is easy.


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