Dymo vs. other print servers
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@scottalanmiller going to look into this for our shipping Dymo label device, never even thought of using a Pi. Thanks!
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In the past, I've used these to "network" desktop scanners, I wonder if this would work?
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@FATeknollogee said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
In the past, I've used these to "network" desktop scanners, I wonder if this would work?
Probably but...
@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
An RP would mean that standard tools... Zabbix, MeshCentral, whatever could be installed and used. As can ZeroTier, SSH, SaltStack, etc. Whatever standardization path you go down, they are a part of it rather than being an IoT device that isn't easy to manage.
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A quick search shows that Dymo is very finicky with 3rd party print servers. And we know the AviMark software is finicky as well.
Is it really worth all this trouble to save what, 60 bucks? For something that might or might not work reliably?
Even if you need ten of them, I doubt you are going break even - if you can make it work at all.
And what happens when Dymo upgrades their driver and the DIY print server doesn't work anymore. You're back to square one.
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@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
A quick search shows that Dymo is very finicky with 3rd party print servers. And we know the AviMark software is finicky as well.
Is it really worth all this trouble to save what, 60 bucks? For something that might or might not work reliably?
Even if you need ten of them, I doubt you are going break even - if you can make it work at all.
And what happens when Dymo upgrades their driver and the DIY print server doesn't work anymore. You're back to square one.
Maybe they won't work at all. I'm going to test one. And Dymo could change but really there isn't a huge financial incentive for them to change. They have a well designed product that does what it's supposed to.
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@CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
A quick search shows that Dymo is very finicky with 3rd party print servers. And we know the AviMark software is finicky as well.
Is it really worth all this trouble to save what, 60 bucks? For something that might or might not work reliably?
Even if you need ten of them, I doubt you are going break even - if you can make it work at all.
And what happens when Dymo upgrades their driver and the DIY print server doesn't work anymore. You're back to square one.
Maybe they won't work at all. I'm going to test one. And Dymo could change but really there isn't a huge financial incentive for them to change. They have a well designed product that does what it's supposed to.
Come to think of it, wouldn't it make sense to replace the printers that needs to be network connected, with the Dymo LabelWriter wireless model instead?
https://www.dymo.com/en-US/Label-writer-Wireless -
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
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@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.
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@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).
It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.
Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.
Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.
Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)
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@Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).
It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.
Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.
Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.
Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)
We don't use Dymo but the Dymo LabelWriter Wireless printer seem to be in the $130-170 span.
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@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).
It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.
Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.
Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.
Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)
We don't use Dymo but the Dymo LabelWriter Wireless printer seem to be in the $130-170 span.
I did recently deploy one of these, and it worked wonderfully! So yeah, definitely a good choice in my opinion.
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@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@Pete-S said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@CCWTech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
I have several clients that use the Dymo label printers. Many of them want to have multiple computers print to the label printer so I have used the Dymo LabelWriter Print Servers (est $125/each).
It seems really high compared to other brand of print servers out there.
Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server? I feel like money can be saved by using other vendors products instead of the Dymo brand, but wanted suggestions.
Print servers is very old school. Normally you just use label printers that have ethernet.
Do you have one that costs less than the combined price of Dymo label printer and the print server? (typically around $250)
We don't use Dymo but the Dymo LabelWriter Wireless printer seem to be in the $130-170 span.
When I deployed the majority of my Dymo Label printers, the wifi model wasn't avalialble, the dymo printer and dymo print server has worked very well for us.
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@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
In theory they are good. But in practice i've never got something like this to work 100%
I've only never tried using one of these https://www.startech.com/uk/Networking-IO/Print/usb-print-server~PM1115U2Printer kept going offline for no reason.
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@hobbit666 said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
In theory they are good. But in practice i've never got something like this to work 100%
I've only never tried using one of these https://www.startech.com/uk/Networking-IO/Print/usb-print-server~PM1115U2Printer kept going offline for no reason.
I have a Digi USBAnywhere 2 that I've been using for 2+ years to provide access to a USB dongle/key for software unlock with Mitel software on a VM. It's worked beautifully this entire time.
Makes me wonder if the StarTech one was just faulty?
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@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.
Honestly don't know. I would hope for there to be a virtual plug / unplug function that could be auto-magically invoked... either out of the box or via scripting / timeout
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@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.
Honestly don't know. I would hope for there to be a virtual plug / unplug function that could be auto-magically invoked... either out of the box or via scripting / timeout
I'm still using Windows Print servers - as such, my label printers have the Dymo USB to ethernet print servers on them, and those are connected to the Windows Print server. I could do direct IP printing to the Dymos, I just haven't migrated to that yet. As I get rid of Windows Servers, that will likely happen, I do need to ensure I don't run into queue issues though, those most modern machines can handle a little queuing inside themselves.
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@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.
Honestly don't know. I would hope for there to be a virtual plug / unplug function that could be auto-magically invoked... either out of the box or via scripting / timeout
That sounds like problems abrewing. Imagine if you did this with a physical printer - constantly plugging and unplugging to every machine that thought that it was locally attached. The system would not react well and wouldn't have it there when you go to print, you'd have to tell it you wanted it plugged in first.
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@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.
Honestly don't know. I would hope for there to be a virtual plug / unplug function that could be auto-magically invoked... either out of the box or via scripting / timeout
That sounds like problems abrewing. Imagine if you did this with a physical printer - constantly plugging and unplugging to every machine that thought that it was locally attached. The system would not react well and wouldn't have it there when you go to print, you'd have to tell it you wanted it plugged in first.
Agreed - why do it that way? why not just map an IP to the print server - I'm assuming the RP would make a printer server just like Dymo print server does?
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@Dashrender said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@scottalanmiller said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
@notverypunny said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
So just to throw another option into the mix:
https://www.virtualhere.com/Basically a usb over IP... one of the guys at work was playing around with it, seemed to work OK, should be sufficient for label printing and would eliminate the concerns surrounding 3rd party print servers and driver updates.
USB doesn't natively allow for sharing. How would that be handled in this scenario? Does it "just work"? I've not tried this in that kind of scenario so have no idea how it would react.
Honestly don't know. I would hope for there to be a virtual plug / unplug function that could be auto-magically invoked... either out of the box or via scripting / timeout
That sounds like problems abrewing. Imagine if you did this with a physical printer - constantly plugging and unplugging to every machine that thought that it was locally attached. The system would not react well and wouldn't have it there when you go to print, you'd have to tell it you wanted it plugged in first.
Agreed - why do it that way? why not just map an IP to the print server - I'm assuming the RP would make a printer server just like Dymo print server does?
In theory.
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@ccwtech said in Dymo vs. other print servers:
Is there any particular advantage or reason to use their print server over just another vendors print server?
What did you end up doing? I need to make a Dymo a networked printer and I have learned the Dymo printer server does not handle multiple subnets. I don't know why, just a common complaint.
I would like to toss any old usb printer server at it and have it work.
