Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...
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@Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
1 x volume license for Enterprise with Software Assurance, you have the rights to re-image every Windows 10 Pro OEM to Enterprise.
No, that's with Pro. Enterprise is unnecessary. But that's only Volume Licensing, that is correct.
But you can't get to Enterprise that way. You are mixing two totally different concepts...
- Acquiring 450 copies of Enterprise
- Changing your imaging rights for the 450 copies of Pro you already have.
Very, very different things.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?
There is only one path... volume licensing.
Or, I guess, Intune might be an option now?
With volume licensing, do I need an agreement that has 1 x Enterprise license for each for the 450 machines, or as long as the OEM was Pro, do I only need 1 x Enterprise license to cover the entire site?
Enterprise is an upgrade to Pro. To get Enterprise for 450 existing Pro devices, you need to acquire 450 Enterprise upgrade licenses.
There is never a 1x "upgrade" anything option in anything. That's not a thing at all.
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Why do you want Enterprise?
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For Enterprise, there isn't any complexity. Every Enterprise install required Pro to already be installed, and you buy an expensive upgrade to Enterprise on top of it.
So 450 devices, easily $40,000.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Why do you want Enterprise?
It has extra security features that senior folk want. I dont really need to know why they want it pushed out, but need to know how and costs.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
For Enterprise, there isn't any complexity. Every Enterprise install required Pro to already be installed, and you buy an expensive upgrade to Enterprise on top of it.
So 450 devices, easily $40,000.
So, I would need a volume license pretty much for 450 x Windows 10 Enterprise with SA?
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@Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
For Enterprise, there isn't any complexity. Every Enterprise install required Pro to already be installed, and you buy an expensive upgrade to Enterprise on top of it.
So 450 devices, easily $40,000.
So, I would need a volume license pretty much for 450 x Windows 10 Enterprise with SA?
Correct. Enterprise is insanely costly. You are basically buying the OS again for each and every machine.
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We had to get a couple licenses for Enterprise + SA a few years ago and they were $292 each... You'll probably get some kind of discount for 450 licenses, but I don't know how much.
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@bnrstnr said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
We had to get a couple licenses for Enterprise + SA a few years ago and they were $292 each... You'll probably get some kind of discount for 450 licenses, but I don't know how much.
Oh damn, so more like $120K!!
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Another option is Windows 10 Enterprise E3 "starting at $7/month" lol, so $38k a year.
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@bnrstnr said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
E3 "starting at $7/month" lol, so $38k a yea
Ok, cheers guys. Some good information to start looking at this. Appreciated.
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@bnrstnr said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Another option is Windows 10 Enterprise E3 "starting at $7/month" lol, so $38k a year.
Yeah, that is one option and it works well to get the Windows 10 Business license which can be accomplished by joining the computers in Hybrid Mode with Office 365 to Azure AD.
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@Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Hi folks,
We have about 450 desktops running Windows 10 Pro OEM. What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?
Licensing is not an area I have looked in to, but I recall a while back hearing that with 1 x volume license for Enterprise with Software Assurance, you have the rights to re-image every Windows 10 Pro OEM to Enterprise.
Does anybody have any details on that?
Best,
JimWhere's your mail?
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@Jimmy9008 said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
What would be a good route to get these all to Enterprise?
There is only one path... volume licensing.
Or, I guess, Intune might be an option now?
Microsoft has several paths for this now.
Enterprise used to be a perk of buying SA for your Windows Pro licenses, then a few years ago, they broke enterprise out into it's own license.
Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
Now they have it as part of the M365 line as well. -
@Jimmy9008 you definitely want to look at this more holistically along with your Office products, assuming you're using MS Office/O365/M365/Intune/AAD, etc.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
I think you mean M365, not O365. Do they really offer it now in the regular Office levels?
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
I think you mean M365, not O365. Do they really offer it now in the regular Office levels?
Some Microsoft 365 plans have Windows Enterprise included along with Advanced Threat Protection and all of the security goodness that comes with that.
That's the direction we're heading in as our clients come off their Open Value Agreements with Enterprise Upgrade + SA which is the equivalent of Desktop Enterprise E3 (as of this writing).
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@PhlipElder said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
I think you mean M365, not O365. Do they really offer it now in the regular Office levels?
Some Microsoft 365 plans have Windows Enterprise included along with Advanced Threat Protection and all of the security goodness that comes with that.
That's the direction we're heading in as our clients come off their Open Value Agreements with Enterprise Upgrade + SA which is the equivalent of Desktop Enterprise E3 (as of this writing).
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I know M365 does, but I don' tthink that O365 does.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@PhlipElder said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
I think you mean M365, not O365. Do they really offer it now in the regular Office levels?
Some Microsoft 365 plans have Windows Enterprise included along with Advanced Threat Protection and all of the security goodness that comes with that.
That's the direction we're heading in as our clients come off their Open Value Agreements with Enterprise Upgrade + SA which is the equivalent of Desktop Enterprise E3 (as of this writing).
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I know M365 does, but I don' tthink that O365 does.
Office 365 is purely a collaboration platform.
Microsoft 365 is an all encompassing solution set for deploying, supporting, managing, and securing the collaboration platform.
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@PhlipElder said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@PhlipElder said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 Enterprise licensing...:
Then they added Enterprise as part of E3 and better O365 licenses,
I think you mean M365, not O365. Do they really offer it now in the regular Office levels?
Some Microsoft 365 plans have Windows Enterprise included along with Advanced Threat Protection and all of the security goodness that comes with that.
That's the direction we're heading in as our clients come off their Open Value Agreements with Enterprise Upgrade + SA which is the equivalent of Desktop Enterprise E3 (as of this writing).
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I know M365 does, but I don' tthink that O365 does.
Office 365 is purely a collaboration platform.
Microsoft 365 is an all encompassing solution set for deploying, supporting, managing, and securing the collaboration platform.
Until someone in marketing figures that Office365 has better brand recognition
