Reconsidering ProxMox
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@stacksofplates said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
Proxmox makes it pretty easy to utilize
cloud-initto help make some nice a nice templates.Yeah I still go back and forth on how useful that is in non-cloud environments. Packer has a proxmox builder so you could leverage a CM tool to do the provisioning for your templates.
Besides what is configured in the cloud.cfg file in that VM, having this accessible from Proxmox Web UI is nice.
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So what is Proxmox exactly?
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@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
So what is Proxmox exactly?
Proxmox is a KVM virtualization stack. Just like vSphere is for ESXi, or XCP-NG is for Xen.
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@scottalanmiller So I can use it like kvm but it just has extra features?
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@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller So I can use it like kvm but it just has extra features?
Commands lines is different.
From the Proxmox Documentation Index from my proxmox server.
https://ip-address:8006/pve-docs/index.html
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@black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?
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@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?
It's still KVM. They just using there own toolkit to manage KVM.
https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve/features -
@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller So I can use it like kvm but it just has extra features?
It IS KVM, it's just a management layer on top of KVM.
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@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?
The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V. That's it. And Bhyve might as well not exist.
All products on the market are these products. They may come in different packages, but at the end of the day, every solution is one of these.
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I have been trying ovirt, proxmox and now I am onto xcp-ng.
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V
I've given up on Proxmox.
What do you use to manage KVM? I know you've mentioned it several times, but I can't recall the name.
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
What do you use to manage KVM? I know you've mentioned it several times, but I can't recall the name.
We were using virt-manager. But Cockpit will do the trick now in the latest release.
What made you give up on Proxmox?
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@JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V
I've given up on Proxmox.
What do you use to manage KVM? I know you've mentioned it several times, but I can't recall the name.
Virtual Machine Manager (virt-manager) and Cockpit. Using Fedora as your KVM host is the best choice if you want the latest version version of Cockpit. But Cockpit also doesn't provide a lot of configuration options like you can with virt-manager.
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Any update on this?! Never been exposed to proxmox and I'm curious!
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@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?
The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V. That's it. And Bhyve might as well not exist.
All products on the market are these products. They may come in different packages, but at the end of the day, every solution is one of these.
Don't forget openbsd:
(https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html) -
@VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@black3dynamite interesting. Have you used this?
The script works great.
And found a quick way to confirm if the hook script works after a Proxmox replaces
proxmoxlib.jsfile.apt --reinstall install proxmox-widget-toolkit -
@matteo-nunziati said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
Any update on this?! Never been exposed to proxmox and I'm curious!
So far, we are liking it. It's still early, but looking good.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?
The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V. That's it. And Bhyve might as well not exist.
All products on the market are these products. They may come in different packages, but at the end of the day, every solution is one of these.
Don't forget openbsd:
(https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html)I HAD forgotten about that. Anyone ever tried it?
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@matteo-nunziati said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
Don't forget openbsd:
(https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html)That is bhyve I believe. Vmm is the kernel module of bhyve.
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@Pete-S said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
@matteo-nunziati said in Reconsidering ProxMox:
Don't forget openbsd:
(https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html)That is bhyve I believe. Vmm is the kernel module of bhyve.
Ah, that would explain why I didn't know about it
