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The Chive reported last night how the US is suppressing Covid-19 reports and how there are very few tests and people are being turned away in droves, including health care workers exposing other people.
Very possible that the infection rate in the US is orders of magnitude higher than is being reported because of the laundry list of things required to have in order to "qualify" has having it.
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@scottalanmiller we are now officially in nation-wide quarantine. You can go out only for relevant reasons.
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@matteo-nunziati said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@scottalanmiller we are now officially in nation-wide quarantine. You can go out only for relevant reasons.
This all mostly because our hospitals are close to their max cap.oh wow!
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In Madrid all the schools (including colleges) will close tomorrow until the end on the month.
It's about 1.5000.000 people.
Now in Madrid are 561 Coronavirus cases.
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I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
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@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
There have been 2 cases of it in Georgia (and another 200 people being monitored for it), and the University system is already prepping to shut down, just, so it seems. I feel like it's a bit of a knee-jerk reaction.
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@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
Maybe. It mostly kills old people. And some with weak immune systems and other health issues. Surprisingly children are fairly safe from it, no child 0-9 year old has died.
People panic over silly things, you should have seen local markets before each snow storm or hurricane. Partially media are to blame as they spread misinformation and fear.
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This is where Clorox wipes were. And so far no reported cases of Covid-19 in the county, 1 case in 1 county over.
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@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
Maybe. It mostly kills old people. And some with weak immune systems and other health issues. Surprisingly children are fairly safe from it, no child 0-9 year old has died.
People panic over silly things, you should have seen local markets before each snow storm or hurricane. Partially media are to blame as they spread misinformation and fear.
Most definitely. Even around here where hurricanes fizzle out before they get to us, you'll see all the bread and water snapped up from our local walmart / grocery stores a week before the storm hits.
I'm more of a cautious buyer. We can boil and filter water to make it drinkable. I stock up on things like canned food that won't go bad after a week or two.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
I've seen published mortality rates for ages 60+ as high as 10%. These were probably inflated by news outlets rounding up, based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/, but the comparison to having the flu is real, and if anyone has an immuno-suppressed or weakened condition, such as a cancer patient in chemo therapy, or idiot parents that refuse to vaccinate, then it can lead to a pretty serious situation. The highly infectious nature is also disturbing since it shows just how fast it spreads. Without any vaccine or cure, the best medicine is to be preventative.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Where are you getting this information? Everything that I've read says either that coronavirus is less deadly but more infectious or that we just don't know what to expect
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@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
This is where Clorox wipes were. And so far no reported cases of Covid-19 in the county, 1 case in 1 county over.
I haven't been to my local Walmart in a week or so. I suppose I should go look, and stock up on toilet paper while I'm there, lol.
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@Grey said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I've done a little bit of reading about COVID-19 (the new Coronavirus)... It seems to me that everybody is panicking simply because it's new?
It's new and so far it's deadlier and more infectious then the flu that we are used to.
I've seen published mortality rates for ages 60+ as high as 10%. These were probably inflated by news outlets rounding up, based on https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/, but the comparison to having the flu is real, and if anyone has an immuno-suppressed or weakened condition, such as a cancer patient in chemo therapy, or idiot parents that refuse to vaccinate, then it can lead to a pretty serious situation. The highly infectious nature is also disturbing since it shows just how fast it spreads. Without any vaccine or cure, the best medicine is to be preventative.
I wonder what's the flu kill rate in that same age group. Probably high too, maybe not that high, but same principles apply, if you're old, sick or have otherwise compromised immune system, you're more likely to die from flu.
I would be one of those idiot parents too, my kid is fully vaccinated, including flu, but I'm not. I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles. And I enjoy my yearly flu infection, I get to stay home for a day or 2 and play games lol.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Where are you getting this information? Everything that I've read says either that coronavirus is less deadly but more infectious or that we just don't know what to expect
The WHO has set the death rate so far at 3.4%. However that may be slightly inflated due to people not self-reporting when they are ill. https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020
Generally the flu kills far fewer then 1%.
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@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@wirestyle22 said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@coliver said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
Where are you getting this information? Everything that I've read says either that coronavirus is less deadly but more infectious or that we just don't know what to expect
The WHO has set the death rate so far at 3.4%. However that may be slightly inflated due to people not self-reporting when they are ill. https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/detail/who-director-general-s-opening-remarks-at-the-media-briefing-on-covid-19---3-march-2020
Generally the flu kills far fewer then 1%.
Thanks I'll read this. The media is generally reporting a lot of mixed info
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@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too, but I swear the only time I get the flu is when I get the flu shot. Most likely it's coincidence... but I still skip them now. I've gotten 2 flu shots in my adult life. First, the year my wife got pregnant with our first kid, and I got the flu that year. Second, when our second kid was born, also got the flu that year. The only 2 times in my adult life that I got it, were when I had the shots. Go figure.
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@bnrstnr said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too, but I swear the only time I get the flu is when I get the flu shot. Most likely it's coincidence... but I still skip them now. I've gotten 2 flu shots in my adult life. First, the year my wife got pregnant with our first kid, and I got the flu that year. Second, when our second kid was born, also got the flu that year. The only 2 times in my adult life that I got it, were when I had the shots. Go figure.
I know folks from both campus: Those who swear by the flu shot, and those who swear they get the flu every time they get the shot. I've never had a flu shot, so I'm not sure which camp I fall into.
My body is able to fight it off in a few days, so I'm good. If I get to where I have trouble getting over it, then I'll probably consider it more. I didn't even get the flu this year (knocks on wood), so I'll be one of those idiots too, until my body tells me different.
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@dafyre said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@bnrstnr said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
@marcinozga said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
I don't get flu shot because I'm scared shitless of needles.
I'm probably being an idiot too, but I swear the only time I get the flu is when I get the flu shot. Most likely it's coincidence... but I still skip them now. I've gotten 2 flu shots in my adult life. First, the year my wife got pregnant with our first kid, and I got the flu that year. Second, when our second kid was born, also got the flu that year. The only 2 times in my adult life that I got it, were when I had the shots. Go figure.
I know folks from both campus: Those who swear by the flu shot, and those who swear they get the flu every time they get the shot. I've never had a flu shot, so I'm not sure which camp I fall into.
My body is able to fight it off in a few days, so I'm good. If I get to where I have trouble getting over it, then I'll probably consider it more. I didn't even get the flu this year (knocks on wood), so I'll be one of those idiots too, until my body tells me different.
The shot is the flu virus, just dead/inactive, and that's suppose to force our bodies into producing antibodies. Perhaps it makes some people sick, or the virus in the shot isn't completely neutralized, I don't know, I'm not healthcare professional, so I can only speculate.
My body is also able to deal with flu easily, so the shot wouldn't provide much benefit for me either. I also know a family where all but but father got the shot, and all but father got the flu, go figure. My kid gets it, so if/when he gets the flu, his symptoms shouldn't be that bad. And unlike Covid-19, flu does kill children too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Real Time Coronavirus Website:
The Chive reported last night how the US is suppressing Covid-19 reports and how there are very few tests and people are being turned away in droves, including health care workers exposing other people.
Very possible that the infection rate in the US is orders of magnitude higher than is being reported because of the laundry list of things required to have in order to "qualify" has having it.
Accurate numbers would require every person in the world with cold or flu like symptoms to be tested, and this is just not realistic. Most will not even realize it's Corvid19. It's really just a matter of time before we all get it. Nothing to do about it.
My guess is that most of the reported cases are the worst cases, still not an accurate number to start generalizing with. I want to see the age group data of all reported cases.
