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      Emad R
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      no Samsung SSD toolbox, no drivers, rely on opensource weak ones...

      remind me why are we doing this ?

      If you have old system with ethernet then yeah it will be very stable, if you have any extra shit, it will be shit

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        DustinB3403
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        I'm not understanding your stance here; it seems like you have some issue with hardware compatibility issue.

        But you seem like you only want to vent rather than fix the issue.

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          EddieJennings
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          Not quite sure what to say, but I'll respond to what seems to make sense to me.

          From a "what workstation OS do I choose for my business?" perspective, I'd say that's largely going to driven by applications you need to us. If you live and die by desktop Adobe products, then a Linux distro isn't for you. If you're mostly using web apps, then OS really doesn't matter.

          As far as peripherals and a Linux distro, I've had only minor pain with printing (one day, I need to take the time and understand CUPS more). I can say that printing pain isn't isolated to a non-Windows OS. Where I work is a Microsoft shop with Citrix XenApp, and printing is annoying at best. My personal laptop is a System76 machine running Fedora, and the only hardware issues it's had were not Linux-related (power plug issue, and a display cable that went bad).

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            Emad R @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403

            i fixed it and the fix is reboot everytime, thats the fix with choosing linux as your workstation. you guys just dont peripherals, try Wifi USB drivers with linux that will make you really see how lacking in that department

            I gurantee the driver will work on Windows 100% and stable and better.

            Thats the thing, everytthing will work better your GPU will be better, you will get more performance in Windows

            Try an AMD APU on Linux and see.. terrible experience

            I have
            ASRock DeskMini A300W AMD Socket AM4 AMD A300 1 x HDMI Barebone System
            with Samsung NVMe 970 SSD
            and 2200G
            Ubuntu LTS 18.04

            I cant use the never versions cause GPU driver is unavailable man on 19.04 or 19.10

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              DustinB3403 @Emad R
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              @Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

              @DustinB3403

              i fixed it and the fix is reboot everytime, thats the fix with choosing linux as your workstation. you guys just dont peripherals, try Wifi USB drivers with linux that will make you really see how lacking in that department

              I gurantee the driver will work on Windows 100% and stable and better.

              Thats the thing, everytthing will work better your GPU will be better, you will get more performance in Windows

              But the question isn't about support or functionality, rather a extremely limited use dongel. What peripheral are you using?

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                black3dynamite @Emad R
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                @Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                if you want to connect to linux SSH using mRemoteNG or Cmder

                Windows 10 comes with a native SSH client and server. SSH client is enable by default.

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                  Emad R @black3dynamite
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                    black3dynamite @Emad R
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                    @Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                    @black3dynamite

                    Can it deal with SSH keys also, I doubt it. That is why I use CMDer

                    Have you actually tried it?

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                      Emad R @black3dynamite
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                      @black3dynamite said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                      @Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                      if you want to connect to linux SSH using mRemoteNG or Cmder

                      Windows 10 comes with a native SSH client and server. SSH client is enable by default.

                      Can it deal with SSH keys also ? that is why i use CMDer

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                        black3dynamite
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                          black3dynamite
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                          If installed, you can even use WSL (Windows Subsystem for Linux) to SSH.

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                            Obsolesce
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                            @Emad-R

                            The solution is to do your due diligence.

                            Verify the hardware is supported by the software you want to run. You do this with everything, OSs included.

                            If you want to run Linux, buy supported hardware. Verify from the hardware manufacturer they support the OS you want to run; verify they provide drivers for your preferred OS.

                            My 7 year old could be taught to do this.

                            But a System76 and tell me Linux doesn't run on it. Buy some peripherals that Ubuntu documents as supported and tell me it doesn't work.

                            There's only one person to blame in all your troubles.

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                              Obsolesce
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                              It's not the OS vendor's responsibility to provide drivers for all the hardware in the world. Microsoft doesn't. It's up to the hardware vendor to provide drivers for it's own hardware. If a hardware vendor doesn't provide drivers for your OS of choice, buy different hardware or choose an OS the hardware vendor supports.

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                                1337 @Obsolesce
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                                @Obsolesce said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                                It's not the OS vendor's responsibility to provide drivers for all the hardware in the world. Microsoft doesn't. It's up to the hardware vendor to provide drivers for it's own hardware. If a hardware vendor doesn't provide drivers for your OS of choice, buy different hardware or choose an OS the hardware vendor supports.

                                That's true. But it's because few hardware manufacturer gives a shit about a couple of nerds running linux desktops when the rest of the worlds desktops are windows, and a couple of macs.

                                The only reason linux survives on the desktop is because it's open source. If it wasn't, it would have been as dead as Windows Mobile/Phone (...and a long list of other dead operating systems).

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                                  Emad R @Emad R
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                                  @Emad-R

                                  You guys dont get it, we love Linux to much we are blind...

                                  There is nothing Windows can do that Linux cant, however the opposite is not true.

                                  In workstation sense, why do everything in your workstation and have all the options

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                                    flaxking
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                                    It sounds like you're missing some Windows drivers experiences. We need to collect and send you all of our 'favourite' peripherals to install.

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                                      flaxking
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                                      I haven't done much of it with Windows 10, but back with Windows 7, if the peripheral was not officially Windows 7 compatible it could be a real PITA to install.

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                                        Emad R @flaxking
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                                        @flaxking said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                                        It sounds like you're missing some Windows drivers experiences. We need to collect and send you all of our 'favourite' peripherals to install.

                                        What about GPU performance? and drivers for that

                                        You get better performance in windows, will using OS we love that handicaps performance cause of strict licensing and blobs that as end user i dont really care as long as i get free download of the driver and it installs.

                                        Linux as worksation means you can do anything in browser, which is good if you reach that point, but thats what desktop linux is a browser OS + snap/electron which is basically a browser app, and if you need linux you can run it in VM in windows the way it is meant to be run just console session.

                                        Thats my point, you will get more in Windows ENV

                                        I love Linux It causes me to earn and work, I made my own Debian Distro back in the day, but we are being cult about it, and limiting ourselves cause we love it so much

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                                          IRJ @Emad R
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                                          @Emad-R said in Using GNU\Linux on your workstation is rubbish:

                                          Linux is only meant for Server OSes ... not for our workstations, it will only take more of your time.

                                          https://media.giphy.com/media/yBXuEb8lC1mqA/giphy.gif

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                                            Emad R @Obsolesce
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