MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
The reality is that this is already not true
What I'm saying is they won't give it a chance at all. They will not move to another OS or give it a shot. Of course they could learn it, but they refuse when I've asked.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
they won't find any apps they are familiar with in that appstore, and this is the huge rub
Your right about that, they do expect things a certain way and just don't want to learn any other way.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
The A9 -9420 (2016) is a complete turd
I like your technical term there
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@jmoore said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@Obsolesce said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
IMO, if someone can use Windows 7,they can use Linux with Cinnamon with no training at all.
Oh sure they can, I totally agree. They just won't give it a chance. The people I'm talking about are older church people that i support and they won't even consider it. I've tried before.
Then if it's that bad, don't tell them. They likely won't notice. If they notice anything, just say it's the updated system, show them where the app store is, and leave it at that.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
and maybe, perhaps the Ryzen chips actually are worth a damn compared to the i5's of the world (or better). But getting me to actually spend my money on them.. it's so hard when I've been burned so many times by AMD chips. Am I just unlucky and only end up buying the turd AMD chips?
The new Ryzen chips are definitely worth a damn. They are the real deal. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and its a beast, and that it's only $180 is huge too.
We bought a burner laptop a few years back with one of the AMD A-Series chips and it was for sure a total piece of shit. Don't hold that against them though, I bet if you bought a new laptop with a Celeron chip you'd be very disappointed, too.
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@bnrstnr said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
and maybe, perhaps the Ryzen chips actually are worth a damn compared to the i5's of the world (or better). But getting me to actually spend my money on them.. it's so hard when I've been burned so many times by AMD chips. Am I just unlucky and only end up buying the turd AMD chips?
The new Ryzen chips are definitely worth a damn. They are the real deal. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and its a beast, and that it's only $180 is huge too.
We bought a burner laptop a few years back with one of the AMD A-Series chips and it was for sure a total piece of shit. Don't hold that against them though, I bet if you bought a new laptop with a Celeron chip you'd be very disappointed, too.
yeah, getting these laptops ultimately totally ends up in my own lap. I was in a crunch - told my vendor order me i5, 8 gb RAM, SSD laptops... he said - intel systems are all on backorder - would AMD be OK? I said sure - AS LONG AS THEY ARE i5 equivalents - he said, here look at these... I assumed he did his job of confirming them... and as I said i was in a crunch for time, so I didn't - and I wound up with a pile of shit.
I know that celeron are shit, i know that non i series Intel laptops are all shit, so I wouldn't even consider ordering one. I didn't know anything about AMD, so short of spending 1-2 hours researching the processors, which is ultimately what I wound up doing, I had no clue those A9's were shit!
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@Obsolesce said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
I don't know of any home users still on 7. Nobody keeps a device that long, and would have something later than Win7.
My Dad does. He also refuses to stop using his even older Windows XP computer for some offline tasks.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
he said - intel systems are all on backorder - would AMD be OK? I said sure - AS LONG AS THEY ARE i5 equivalents - he said, here look at these... I assumed he did his job of confirming them... and as I said i was in a crunch for time, so I didn't - and I wound up with a pile of shit.
Yeah, totally different category of processors. A12 and A10 are the tier below Ryzen 3 which is below Ryzen 5. R3 and R5 are very roughly on parity with i3 and i5. So an A9 would be like the lowest of two entire categories lower than an i5. An A6 is like another tier below that.
I use the A10 and it is great. But I'm extremely aware that it's no i5.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
I know that celeron are shit, i know that non i series Intel laptops are all shit, so I wouldn't even consider ordering one. I didn't know anything about AMD, so short of spending 1-2 hours researching the processors, which is ultimately what I wound up doing, I had no clue those A9's were shit!
I think that they are way better than Celerons. The hardware GPU really does make it do a good job. The A10 is plenty fast for normal business users.
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@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
I know that celeron are shit, i know that non i series Intel laptops are all shit, so I wouldn't even consider ordering one. I didn't know anything about AMD, so short of spending 1-2 hours researching the processors, which is ultimately what I wound up doing, I had no clue those A9's were shit!
I think that they are way better than Celerons. The hardware GPU really does make it do a good job. The A10 is plenty fast for normal business users.
If you're saying the A9-9420 is better than a Celeron - WOW - that makes celeron a total and complete waste of silicon for a laptop.
I'd have to see an A10 in action to know if it's worthwhile or not. I'm willing to accept than an R3/R5 are roughly equivalent to i3/i5, though if both options are available, the price would have to be noticeable before I would choose AMD - at least until I get some actual hands on experience.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
If you're saying the A9-9420 is better than a Celeron - WOW - that makes celeron a total and complete waste of silicon for a laptop.
My A10 I think is. Not sure about A9.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
I'm willing to accept than an R3/R5 are roughly equivalent to i3/i5, though if both options are available, the price would have to be noticeable before I would choose AMD - at least until I get some actual hands on experience.
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
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@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
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@andrewwheaton said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
Pretty impressive. And a lot of things that didnt work with Intel are flawless with the AMD.
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@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@andrewwheaton said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
Pretty impressive. And a lot of things that didnt work with Intel are flawless with the AMD.
Such as?
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@Obsolesce said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@andrewwheaton said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
Pretty impressive. And a lot of things that didnt work with Intel are flawless with the AMD.
Such as?
Can't wait to hear this.
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@Obsolesce said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@andrewwheaton said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
Pretty impressive. And a lot of things that didnt work with Intel are flawless with the AMD.
Such as?
Things that choke on Intel's garbage fake GPU. The Great Art Race is an example. Wouldn't run at all on it. But Intel makes it impossible to fully disable.
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@Dashrender said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@Obsolesce said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@andrewwheaton said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
Pretty impressive. And a lot of things that didnt work with Intel are flawless with the AMD.
Such as?
Can't wait to hear this.
Now you are just asking for an endless stream of things that have started working that I've given up on in the past.
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Jade Empire was another.
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@andrewwheaton said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
@scottalanmiller said in MS Windows 7 SP1 Full Screen Alert:
Just got an R7 for the kids last week.
And how is it?
been like two weeks now and it has been just great. Super fast, zero issues.
