Datto AP60
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@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
No job should ever expect you to perform a job that they don't give you the tools for, unless the job stated you had to provide such tools as part of the hiring process.
And outlined what those tools were, or cost thereof. Otherwise the job can easily start treating you like a parts supplier. It's an AP today. Maybe a switch tomorrow. Eventually, maybe a desktop, or a server. First a car, then a pickup, eventually a box truck and a CDL.
There is a big gap between an employer who puts it on you to pay for their mistakes and treats you like dirt and an employer that treats you well, provides what is needed and you want to go the extra mile for because you can. There is a difference between being emotionally tricked into feeling responsible for someone else's failures, and volunteering to be a hero and go the extra mile.
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@scottalanmiller said in Datto AP60:
@dbeato said in Datto AP60:
@scottalanmiller said in Datto AP60:
@DustinB3403 said in Datto AP60:
@scottalanmiller said in Datto AP60:
We replace them with UBNT because they are better, not because they are less.
You absolutely have to be replacing this not only because Ubiquiti offers a better product, but because the TCO is way cheaper than the cost of Meraki's gear as well.
Actually, that pretty much never happens. That they are cheaper makes customers jump at it, but typically we replace the Merakis because of a failing that the UBNT fixes.
What failing? And the problem is not Meraki or Ubiquiti here. However when it comes to so called security experts they talk about Security Controls on APs which is very interesting and they leave out Ubiquiti because they don't have any.
Lack of features or flexibility, generally. Or that configuration costs, rather than unit costs, are so much higher that while it might be a cost factor, isn't a cost of the device factor.
I see, so bottom line factors.
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@WrCombs said in Datto AP60:
@dbeato - What would it take to get creds for the management interface?
You need to be a Datto partner or find one like me.
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@dbeato said in Datto AP60:
@WrCombs said in Datto AP60:
@dbeato - What would it take to get creds for the management interface?
You need to be a Datto partner or find one like me.
Can you seize control of other MSPs' gear?
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Thread is open.
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Not sure if there are still questions re: the device but I've run a few sites using these or related devices for quite a while. APs were purchased as OpenMesh prior to the Datto takeover. Most that we were using were an earlier model but the cloud controller has remained quite similar through the whole process.
They've been reliable and are easy to work with.
Have experienced a few occasions where internet access went down and they stopped providing network access until the connection to the cloud controller was reestablished. Haven't experienced the situation in some time though so unsure if it is still a thing.
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@NDC said in Datto AP60:
Have experienced a few occasions where internet access went down and they stopped providing network access until the connection to the cloud controller was reestablished.
That could be an issue here, he plans to use them in a disconnected mode.
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@scottalanmiller said in Datto AP60:
@NDC said in Datto AP60:
Have experienced a few occasions where internet access went down and they stopped providing network access until the connection to the cloud controller was reestablished.
That could be an issue here, he plans to use them in a disconnected mode.
Yep, I thought I saw that in a related thread, it's why I mentioned it.
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@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
@WrCombs said in Datto AP60:
@scottalanmiller said in Datto AP60:
@WrCombs said in Datto AP60:
But I'm running out of time and options here...
Just to be clear, she's running out of time and options. You are unaffected.
Sure ; IF that's how you see it.
I see it as MY install; im the Account Manager on this one and taking the lead so im the one stressing.This, this is the hardest aspect of this job that I've had to get over. Sure, it's your project, but you don't have a company CC - you don't have ordering rights/purchasing rights (Or do you?)
No job should ever expect you to perform a job that they don't give you the tools for, unless the job stated you had to provide such tools as part of the hiring process.
For example - if you having cell phone they can call you on is required for the job - either a) they provide it/pay for it - or B) tell you when you take the job of this requirement so you can decide if that is an acceptable part of the job requirements.
This is no different than wearing clothes to work - They tell you what type of clothes you must wear, but generally don't provide you those clothes, or even pay you so you can acquire them (well, not directly).
But, I assume they did say - to get this job you need to have reliable transportation, and we (the company) will reimburse you for driving your own vehicle based on mileage.
It's no different in your AP situation. You were told pre-hire that you had to provide networking equipment, so why should you? You still have 3 weeks before this install - assuming you can't get this 'free' AP working by noon - I'd go to her and say - Hey, I can't get this to work, I need to order an $90 UAP so I can pre-stage these tablets for this client - oh, and we'll have it here for the next install as well, etc.
If she says no - then say - OK, no problem, but I'll need a few more hours onsite at the client site to setup the tablets, once I get their WIFI network setup.
Frankly - from a time spent POV, there shouldn't really be much of a difference, it will likely take you the same amount of time - just in one case the client is watching you, and in the other, they are not.
I assume this project was sold as a flat rate project - so it's not like there could be more or less billing...Well said.
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@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
His company is the MSP
No he isn't. The only "MSP" being discussed is the MSP that sells Datto shit.
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@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
Of course, they are basically useless in this setup, because the APs are on a non internet connected network.
No, they are not. @dbeato has clearly stated it works offline once programmed. Yes @NDC mentioned a rare condition where it failed.
None of that matters. This unit is not going out to the restaraunt. He only needs the fucking thing to configure the tablets in the office. The restaurant will be providing s the wifi for the production closed network.
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@JaredBusch said in Datto AP60:
@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
Of course, they are basically useless in this setup, because the APs are on a non internet connected network.
No, they are not. @dbeato has clearly stated it works offline once programmed. Yes @NDC mentioned a rare condition where it failed.
None of that matters. This unit is not going out to the restaraunt. He only needs the fucking thing to configure the tablets in the office. The restaurant will be providing s the wifi for the production closed network.
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@WrCombs said in Datto AP60:
@JaredBusch said in Datto AP60:
@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
Of course, they are basically useless in this setup, because the APs are on a non internet connected network.
No, they are not. @dbeato has clearly stated it works offline once programmed. Yes @NDC mentioned a rare condition where it failed.
None of that matters. This unit is not going out to the restaraunt. He only needs the fucking thing to configure the tablets in the office. The restaurant will be providing s the wifi for the production closed network.
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People are fucking too stupid to remember from the top of a thread to the bottom I swear.
Anyway, you can use the Datto just like I outlined for the UniFi. Assuming you can get it programmed by someone.
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@JaredBusch said in Datto AP60:
@WrCombs said in Datto AP60:
@JaredBusch said in Datto AP60:
@Dashrender said in Datto AP60:
Of course, they are basically useless in this setup, because the APs are on a non internet connected network.
No, they are not. @dbeato has clearly stated it works offline once programmed. Yes @NDC mentioned a rare condition where it failed.
None of that matters. This unit is not going out to the restaraunt. He only needs the fucking thing to configure the tablets in the office. The restaurant will be providing s the wifi for the production closed network.
this
People are fucking too stupid to remember from the top of a thread to the bottom I swear.
Anyway, you can use the Datto just like I outlined for the UniFi. Assuming you can get it programmed by someone.
@dbeato Private messaged me and if that's the route we take he said he'd help .
