Researching OpenDental Software
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@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@Dashrender said in Researching OpenDental Software:
LOL
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- they said can, not that it was legal
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- yeah, they are definitely being weird about that NAS statement.
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- point three doesn't really provide enough information, If you assume point three has to do with point 2, A-Z folders, then the connections (not computers) is relevant, but still pointless as far as connecting to MySQL is concerned.
Yes, but you can't make that assumption in point 3. The defined context was from the list, not from another point in the list. Now you are assuming that they don't know how bullet points work to try to make it still not make sense.
I completely agree with you... but point number 3 really doesn't matter after 1 and 2.
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This piqued my interest enough to go looking for a EULA.
MySQL is not allowed any external connections according to the EULA. None.
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@EddieJennings said in Researching OpenDental Software:
This piqued my interest enough to go looking for a EULA.
MySQL is not allowed any external connections according to the EULA. None.
Yeah, I didn't know that about MySQL either.. seems odd, from this person who's never used it directly before.
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@Dashrender said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@EddieJennings said in Researching OpenDental Software:
This piqued my interest enough to go looking for a EULA.
MySQL is not allowed any external connections according to the EULA. None.
Yeah, I didn't know that about MySQL either.. seems odd, from this person who's never used it directly before.
This was the first thing I found: https://downloads.mysql.com/docs/licenses/mysqld-8.0-com-en.pdf
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You are out of context.
@scottalanmiller is stating MySQL on Windows has that restriction. -
@JaredBusch said in Researching OpenDental Software:
You are out of context.
@scottalanmiller is stating MySQL on Windows has that restriction.I see. I made the mistake of interpreting "the EULA" as "its EULA."
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Doing a demo install of it so that we can learn about it. Apparently Patterson EagleSoft doesn't believe that their own product is production ready (no current Windows support, no VM support... basically unsupported and abandoned according to their own people, not even attempting to be a production system in a modern sense) so the number of viable vendors in the dental space are few and far between. We support a bit of everything in the dentistry space, and what people get is pretty unprofessional at best, most of the time.
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@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
Doing a demo install of it so that we can learn about it. Apparently Patterson EagleSoft doesn't believe that their own product is production ready (no current Windows support, no VM support... basically unsupported and abandoned according to their own people, not even attempting to be a production system in a modern sense) so the number of viable vendors in the dental space are few and far between. We support a bit of everything in the dentistry space, and what people get is pretty unprofessional at best, most of the time.
Seriously, does any software vendor just not suck? So many have turned out to be just junk recently.
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https://www.opendental.com/site/sourcecode.html
Tortoise SVN.............
You have to install the trial version to get the initial database tables set up? What is this?
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@stacksofplates said in Researching OpenDental Software:
https://www.opendental.com/site/sourcecode.html
Tortoise SVN.............
You have to install the trial version to get the initial database tables set up? What is this?
Everything on their site is crazy.
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I'm honestly surprised it's not built with FoxPro.
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@stacksofplates said in Researching OpenDental Software:
I'm honestly surprised it's not built with FoxPro.
It sure feels like it is!!
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There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
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@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
And getting the customers to care. In many cases, just because you make a better mouse trap, doesn't mean that someone will buy it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
And getting the customers to care. In many cases, just because you make a better mouse trap, doesn't mean that someone will buy it.
I've seen the prices they are paying, I don't think it would be hard to build a cheaper mouse trap too.
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@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
And getting the customers to care. In many cases, just because you make a better mouse trap, doesn't mean that someone will buy it.
I've seen the prices they are paying, I don't think it would be hard to build a cheaper mouse trap too.
Oh I know, but even cheaper often doesn't matter. There is a pain to switching, and that alone is more than many will contemplate, regardless of potential profits.
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PHI complicates things ALOT, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
And getting the customers to care. In many cases, just because you make a better mouse trap, doesn't mean that someone will buy it.
This is so true. It's not simply buying the new software, it's moving the old data over, or the customer now having to deal with two systems, for god knows how long... it's generally pretty damned expensive to change systems...
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@Dashrender said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
And getting the customers to care. In many cases, just because you make a better mouse trap, doesn't mean that someone will buy it.
This is so true. It's not simply buying the new software, it's moving the old data over, or the customer now having to deal with two systems, for god knows how long... it's generally pretty damned expensive to change systems...
And don't forget learning curve.
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@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@Dashrender said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@scottalanmiller said in Researching OpenDental Software:
@flaxking said in Researching OpenDental Software:
There's so many industries with niche LoB applications that are ripe for a shake-up by modern competitors. The issue is getting the business knowledge in order to make a competing product.
And getting the customers to care. In many cases, just because you make a better mouse trap, doesn't mean that someone will buy it.
This is so true. It's not simply buying the new software, it's moving the old data over, or the customer now having to deal with two systems, for god knows how long... it's generally pretty damned expensive to change systems...
And don't forget learning curve.
Exactly.
I'm having this exact with with a client now. They have a 20+ year old AS/400, yes a real AS/400 that is still running their back end systems... I've been talking to them for 5+ years to upgrade to at least a current version of their system or move to something else... still waiting.
