zip and . rar files?
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@notverypunny said in zip and . rar files?:
The advantage that I remember rar having was that it could split and then recombine an archive at the appropriate size for floppy disks. Seems foolish now but in the era of dial-up and 1.44 MB 3.5" diskettes it was a killer feature that winzip (also a paid software once upon a time, not always built into windoze) didn't have.
Correct, that was the huge benefit to rar over zip in the 90’s. You are also correct that native zip support in windows is relatively recent.
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@scottalanmiller said in zip and . rar files?:
@WrCombs said in zip and . rar files?:
@scotth said in zip and . rar files?:
@WrCombs Yeh. 7zip is really good, opens about 4 dozen types of compressed files and is free.
Unlike Winrar which
after a 40 day free trial will have to purchase and or UninstallWinRAR is like WinAMP.... just a joke that never had a place for actual use. Goofy, pointless paid software that was never as good as what was already there and free.
These are fighting words here. WinAMP was the greatest. It really whips the llama's ass.
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WinAMP was THE mp3 player on Windows. Alternative was.... I can't think of anything, windows media player, classic one, if that was your thing, but that didn't play mp3 if I remember correctly. WinRAR is just a legacy app, you mostly see .rar files on torrent sites, and that's about all the use cases for it.
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@marcinozga said in zip and . rar files?:
WinAMP was THE mp3 player on Windows. Alternative was.... I can't think of anything, windows media player, classic one, if that was your thing, but that didn't play mp3 if I remember correctly.
WinAMP came out in 1997. So it did predate the main alternative, which is VLC which is vastly superior as a product, free, and open, and does so much more (like video.)
As VLC was so much more than WinAMP, and just because I remember having MP3s without WinAMP during that time, I'm pretty sure that there were MPS music alternatives at the time, just we don't remember them now. WinAMP got all the attention, but it was also pretty awful.
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@scottalanmiller said in zip and . rar files?:
@marcinozga said in zip and . rar files?:
WinAMP was THE mp3 player on Windows. Alternative was.... I can't think of anything, windows media player, classic one, if that was your thing, but that didn't play mp3 if I remember correctly.
WinAMP came out in 1997. So it did predate the main alternative, which is VLC which is vastly superior as a product, free, and open, and does so much more (like video.)
As VLC was so much more than WinAMP, and just because I remember having MP3s without WinAMP during that time, I'm pretty sure that there were MPS music alternatives at the time, just we don't remember them now. WinAMP got all the attention, but it was also pretty awful.
VLC could do playlists, queues, gapless playback for music? (not that you said it could... I'm just thinking about my favorite features)
I don't remember VLC being good for music at all, which WinAMP was so good at. What it was designed for. WinAMP was also capable of playing video, but was an afterthought IMO.
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Everybody seems to forget about (or don't know about / care for) foobar2000
Never looked back once I switched to it from WinAMP. Yeah, it's a bit minimalistic, but it plays music without being a pile of useless eye candy, so it works for me.
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@srsmith said in zip and . rar files?:
Everybody seems to forget about (or don't know about / care for) foobar2000
Never looked back once I switched to it from WinAMP. Yeah, it's a bit minimalistic, but it plays music without being a pile of useless eye candy, so it works for me.
Foobar2000 wasn't released until late 2002, and probably wasn't widely used/known for a while. WinAMP was around for years by then.
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It just hit me, Real Player was main competitor to WinAMP, loaded with adware and spyware.
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@marcinozga said in zip and . rar files?:
It just hit me, Real Player was main competitor to WinAMP, loaded with adware and spyware.
Oh gosh, forgot about that one.
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@srsmith said in zip and . rar files?:
Everybody seems to forget about (or don't know about / care for) foobar2000
I've forgotten about it so much than in you mentioning it, it still doesn't sound familiar.
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@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@scottalanmiller said in zip and . rar files?:
WinAMP
WinAMP was paid software? I do not recall that. But then I quit using it in the mid 00's in favor of iTunes (fucking mistake that was).
It turned into paid software... I think it started as Shareware.
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@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@notverypunny said in zip and . rar files?:
The advantage that I remember rar having was that it could split and then recombine an archive at the appropriate size for floppy disks. Seems foolish now but in the era of dial-up and 1.44 MB 3.5" diskettes it was a killer feature that winzip (also a paid software once upon a time, not always built into windoze) didn't have.
Correct, that was the huge benefit to rar over zip in the 90’s. You are also correct that native zip support in windows is relatively recent.
If by recent you mean Windows XP...
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@marcinozga said in zip and . rar files?:
WinAMP was THE mp3 player on Windows. Alternative was.... I can't think of anything, windows media player, classic one, if that was your thing, but that didn't play mp3 if I remember correctly. WinRAR is just a legacy app, you mostly see .rar files on torrent sites, and that's about all the use cases for it.
Agreed, Windows Media player added support as an add-on late in Windows XP life.
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@marcinozga said in zip and . rar files?:
It just hit me, Real Player was main competitor to WinAMP, loaded with adware and spyware.
OMG - burn it with firey flames!!!
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So by now, @WrCombs can not only manipulate 4 dozen compressed files, he can also play mp3 files 6 ways.
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@scotth said in zip and . rar files?:
So by now, @WrCombs can not only manipulate 4 dozen compressed files, he can also play mp3 files 6 ways.
HA !
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@Dashrender said in zip and . rar files?:
@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@notverypunny said in zip and . rar files?:
The advantage that I remember rar having was that it could split and then recombine an archive at the appropriate size for floppy disks. Seems foolish now but in the era of dial-up and 1.44 MB 3.5" diskettes it was a killer feature that winzip (also a paid software once upon a time, not always built into windoze) didn't have.
Correct, that was the huge benefit to rar over zip in the 90’s. You are also correct that native zip support in windows is relatively recent.
If by recent you mean Windows XP...
Was it native supported in Vista? I thought it was Win 7 that finally added that.
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@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@Dashrender said in zip and . rar files?:
@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@notverypunny said in zip and . rar files?:
The advantage that I remember rar having was that it could split and then recombine an archive at the appropriate size for floppy disks. Seems foolish now but in the era of dial-up and 1.44 MB 3.5" diskettes it was a killer feature that winzip (also a paid software once upon a time, not always built into windoze) didn't have.
Correct, that was the huge benefit to rar over zip in the 90’s. You are also correct that native zip support in windows is relatively recent.
If by recent you mean Windows XP...
Was it native supported in Vista? I thought it was Win 7 that finally added that.
according to this, XP had it in 2002
https://www.itprotoday.com/cloud-computing/how-can-i-enable-and-disable-windows-xps-built-zip-support -
@Dashrender said in zip and . rar files?:
@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@scottalanmiller said in zip and . rar files?:
WinAMP
WinAMP was paid software? I do not recall that. But then I quit using it in the mid 00's in favor of iTunes (fucking mistake that was).
It turned into paid software... I think it started as Shareware.
Oh, I only knew it as paid.
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@Dashrender said in zip and . rar files?:
@JaredBusch said in zip and . rar files?:
@notverypunny said in zip and . rar files?:
The advantage that I remember rar having was that it could split and then recombine an archive at the appropriate size for floppy disks. Seems foolish now but in the era of dial-up and 1.44 MB 3.5" diskettes it was a killer feature that winzip (also a paid software once upon a time, not always built into windoze) didn't have.
Correct, that was the huge benefit to rar over zip in the 90’s. You are also correct that native zip support in windows is relatively recent.
If by recent you mean Windows XP...
LOL, yeah, 18 years ago at this point
