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      Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

      And obviously you need to run Linux on this. Fedora, Ubuntu, CentOS, Debian, Suse. You need MD RAID for protection, and a really good filesystem that can handle the size, XFS most likely.

      ZFS and BtrFS will work, too.

      Not sure if this matters, but the target will be used by Windows Servers... would that make a difference here?

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        scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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        @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

        Not sure if this matters, but the target will be used by Windows Servers... would that make a difference here?

        No, Windows just isn't up to the job. That the backups will talk over SMB is not really a factor, Synology is Linux, too. All enterprise storage options are Linux based (or BSD based) and use Samba as their interface layer. So it's really the only possibility.

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          Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

          @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

          Not sure if this matters, but the target will be used by Windows Servers... would that make a difference here?

          No, Windows just isn't up to the job. That the backups will talk over SMB is not really a factor, Synology is Linux, too. All enterprise storage options are Linux based (or BSD based) and use Samba as their interface layer. So it's really the only possibility.

          Thats fine. I meant for the clients backing up to this target. They are Windows.

          I'll take a look at SuperMicro and Huawei drives, and see what PCM say if I cant figure it out.

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            scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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            @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

            I'll take a look at SuperMicro and Huawei drives,

            Chassis.

            Only WD makes drives for you.

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              Jimmy9008
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              Yep, i forgot the ',' lol

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                scottalanmiller
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                This is one of your few possible drives...

                https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc500-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc530.pdf

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                  Jimmy9008
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                  Something like: SC847E16-R1K28LPB on SuperMicro?

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                    scottalanmiller
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                    This is another drive that you could consider. 15TB optimized for sequential workloads.

                    https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/data-center-drives/ultrastar-dc-hc600-series/data-sheet-ultrastar-dc-hc620.pdf

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                      scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                      SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                      Yes, that's definitely an option.

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                        Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

                        @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                        SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                        Yes, that's definitely an option.

                        Ok, i'll look in to that.

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                          DustinB3403
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                          I still very much doubt that you'll be able to get that much hardware for your price point.

                          Even with Supermicro being a great contender here, your disks cost is going to be sky high.

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                            DustinB3403
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                            Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $11,279.76.

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                              Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid/limits?:

                              Drives alone for this are going to cost you (assuming amazon prices - not VAT) $6,325.

                              Just had a look now:

                              24 * DC HC530 inc VAT = £12,503.53
                              1 x SC847E16-R1K28LPB inc VAT = £1,655.99

                              Total: £14,159.52

                              Just need to configure it in house.

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                                DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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                                @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

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                                  Jimmy9008 @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                  SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                  CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                  I assumed that is already within the device?

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                                    scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                    @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                    @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                    SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                    CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                    I assumed that is already within the device?

                                    You would have specs if so. What you linked looked only like the chassis.

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                                      DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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                                      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                      @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                      SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                      CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                      I assumed that is already within the device?

                                      Chassis is just the chassis. . . not the guts.

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                                        DustinB3403
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                                        Those are the MB's that the chassis can fit.

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                                          scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                          @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          @Jimmy9008 said in Raid10, must use or another Raid limits?:

                                          SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                          CPU, RAM, Power supplies, motherboard?

                                          I assumed that is already within the device?

                                          Chassis implies none of those things. If you look, the chassis lists the kinds of motherboards it supports. It doesn't have a mobo, let alone CPU, RAM, etc.

                                          https://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-R1K28LPB

                                          SuperMicro you always buy through a dealer. Looking at SM's website is just about useless. Talk to PCM UK and have them assemble something for you, trying to do it yourself will be a nightmare and that's never how SM expects it to work.

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                                            DustinB3403
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                                            You could easily be adding an additional 2-6 K on top of what you estimated for just the chassis and drives.

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