Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps
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@wrx7m said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.
Around 6pm today stuff stopped moving.
I was stupid and dind't screenshot the Synology before rebooting, but is just said "Connecting"
It is currently rebooting.
Did the Synology stop responding on the network at this point or did the transfer just stop?
That has nothing to do with today's conversation.
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@dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.
Today.
But it looks like some stuff has been uploading.
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@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
Sent a ticket off to Synology. We shall see what they say.
Their response was fucking stupid T1 bullshit.
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@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@dbeato said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch I am not sure how you have been doing with this, but basically what I have found is that after a couple months the key with B2 does not work any longer and we need to add it again so we are constantly monitoring it. If you get into that issue maybe you can see something I did not see.
Today.
rebooted and surprise, more things to sync.
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@JaredBusch I guess it did not stop then.
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Dead again this morning.
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@JaredBusch Out of curiosity is this NAS having network connectivity drops?
Can you setup a monitor to watch this device and see if the NIC itself is completely disconnecting/failing.
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@DustinB3403 said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch Out of curiosity is this NAS having network connectivity drops?
Can you setup a monitor to watch this device and see if the NIC itself is completely disconnecting/failing.
I have all 4 NICs connected in a team. This is unlikely to be the problem. Also, one would think that even if is lost connectivity, a fucking sync application would then resume.
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@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
one would think
Sounds an awful lot like assume.
But yeah being in a team I can't imagine that being the issue.
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@DustinB3403 said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
one would think
Sounds an awful lot like assume.
But yeah being in a team I can't imagine that being the issue.
Support finally replied asking for remote access. I enabled that and we shall see what they say.
I've sent log files twice.
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Current status
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@JaredBusch Throughout this thread and other similar NAS threads, I wonder why you are using a NAS instead of just running a linux server?
Is it the hardware? Even if it's a low powered desktop NAS, something like HPE's Microserver would do the job with its 4x3.5" drive bays for around $300 without drives. 4 drive bays would be up to 24TB of usable space on a RAID-10 array.
Just seems like someone with your experience could easily get the job done without the gui. So why use non-standard OS with non-standard hardware?
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@Pete-S said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch Throughout this thread and other similar NAS threads, I wonder why you are using a NAS instead of just running a linux server?
Is it the hardware? Even if it's a low powered desktop NAS, something like HPE's Microserver would do the job with its 4x3.5" drive bays for around $300 without drives. 4 drive bays would be up to 24TB of usable space on a RAID-10 array.
Just seems like someone with your experience could easily get the job done without the gui. So why use non-standard OS with non-standard hardware?
I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.
Synology is a nice solid unit for something like this.
We are not an MSP. We do very little full IT Department work compared to many places.
If we did more, I wouldn't be looking for a part time ass in a chair right now. I could easily find people looking for full time work with.
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@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.
But it is a trivial skill to find. They could just not hire a competent IT person at all and all IT infrastructure would be a problem. It's not a realistic way to choose tech as long as you are discussing broad, basic skills that are not in any shortage. There is absolutely no limit or problem getting UNIX admins.
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@scottalanmiller said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.
But it is a trivial skill to find. They could just not hire a competent IT person at all and all IT infrastructure would be a problem. It's not a realistic way to choose tech as long as you are discussing broad, basic skills that are not in any shortage. There is absolutely no limit or problem getting UNIX admins.
I don't even think @JaredBusch cares so much about being able to "do it more cheaply" by building a nix server himself, as much as he cares about having supported hardware for the environment (hardware support).
Also he's already stated he's looking for that bus/lottery protection, which a Synology is a pretty easy means of getting that, albeit the lowest kind of protection.
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@DustinB3403 said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@scottalanmiller said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
I could. But if I leave, or they fire me, the next person possibly could not.
But it is a trivial skill to find. They could just not hire a competent IT person at all and all IT infrastructure would be a problem. It's not a realistic way to choose tech as long as you are discussing broad, basic skills that are not in any shortage. There is absolutely no limit or problem getting UNIX admins.
I don't even think @JaredBusch cares so much about being able to "do it more cheaply" by building a nix server himself, as much as he cares about having supported hardware for the environment (hardware support).
Also he's already stated he's looking for that bus/lottery protection, which a Synology is a pretty easy means of getting that, albeit the lowest kind of protection.
Dustin, what exactly do you mean by "bus/lottery protection"? That it's unreliable? Or an extra backup for unlikely situations?
In general I found that using a server instead of an appliance is almost never cheaper. But you can get whatever hardware quality you want with warranty & support to what ever level you need. And using a standard OS you can get whatever support level you need as well. With an appliance you kind of get what you get and have to rely on the vendor fixing everything for you.
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@Pete-S said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
Dustin, what exactly do you mean by "bus/lottery protection"?
That it was protection from me going away.
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@scottalanmiller said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
But it is a trivial skill to find.
Your perception of the world is far from the actual majority of people that would be performing said search.
That is reality.
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@JaredBusch said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
@Pete-S said in Synology pushing to Backblaze B2 at 50mbps:
Dustin, what exactly do you mean by "bus/lottery protection"?
That it was protection from me going away.
Hit by a bus or won the lottery and said fuck off.Ah, makes sense. Thanks.
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Identified the problem as the sync not resuming after the scheduled pause.
Updated support ticket, no response yet.This scheduled pause was because that is when new backup jobs kick off. And if I did not pause it, it would attempt to upload files that were still being written. Creating multiple versions for no reason.
UNMS graph for the win.
I rebooted it two days ago after 9am, when I posted here. Then that night it stopped at 6pm but it never started again at 7pm. I rebooted the unit after 8pm and it started again.
I disabled the scheduled pause in order to get everything uploaded.
It has been running continuously since I did that yesterday morning.
