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@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
@scottalanmiller Don't know. Never looked into it.
What system are you using to "make KVM easy"? oVirt is probably the easiest overall and is where most of the "easy features" come from. Cockpit is by far the easiest for the extreme basics, but lacks enough to be problematic for most.
If you are doing everything manually from the command line, that's why it would seem harder. Compare to Hyper-V from PowerShell only. Both are fine that way, but I bet you'll find KVM way easier.
Then if you are using Hyper-V GUI tools, compare to oVirt as KVM's easy cluster management tool. I bet KVM is again, easier.
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@scottalanmiller I've just been using virt-manager and some ssh. I have Cockpit running on the host but haven't used it for management. It doesn't seem to reflect the guests that are running in the Cockpit gui. The cockpit-machines package is installed.
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@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
It doesn't seem to reflect the guests that are running in the Cockpit gui. The cockpit-machines package is installed.
No, you have to either configure them for that, or build them through Cockpit for them to be seen there.
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@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
@scottalanmiller You are right. It is simple. I just worry that I will mistype a command and corrupt the guest. I worry a lot and over-think things way to often.
Same thing could happen if you mistype a PowerShell command on Hyper-V.
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@black3dynamite said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
@scottalanmiller You are right. It is simple. I just worry that I will mistype a command and corrupt the guest. I worry a lot and over-think things way to often.
Same thing could happen if you mistype a PowerShell command on Hyper-V.
This is also why backups are mandatory.
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@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
Another question - Is there any reason NOT to use UEFI boot on all guests in KVM?
I wasn't able to create snapshots with UEFI VMs but that was from the GUI. I haven't using tried creating snapshots via command.
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@black3dynamite I noticed that too. Did not try command yet either.
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@scottalanmiller I'll concur about Windows here. I use a Win 10 vm made from virt-manager and its smooth as silk. Much better performance than using something like Virtualbox or hyper-V in my opinion.
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@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
@scottalanmiller I've just been using virt-manager and some ssh. I have Cockpit running on the host but haven't used it for management. It doesn't seem to reflect the guests that are running in the Cockpit gui. The cockpit-machines package is installed.
There are two sessions, when creating VMs:
(QEMU/KVM) qemu:///systemand(QEMU/KVM user session) qemu:///sessionAre you log in with a user that is apart of the libvirt group?
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@black3dynamite I honestly don't know. I always use a normal user account and elevate privileges when necessary.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
I know you can create the xml and tar a copy but there has to be an "easier" way.
That's so easy, I'm not sure what an "easier way" would really look like.
That is NOT as easy as one step. Period...
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@Dashrender said in Nginx VM:
@scottalanmiller said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
I know you can create the xml and tar a copy but there has to be an "easier" way.
That's so easy, I'm not sure what an "easier way" would really look like.
That is NOT as easy as one step. Period...
Just because there are fewer steps doesn't make those steps easier. So how much easier is it?
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Is any platform really just one step? There is a lot of detail needed to move a VM from one machine to another. A single step can't account for all of that. I don't think Hyper-V or ESXi offer that, either.
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@black3dynamite said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
Another question - Is there any reason NOT to use UEFI boot on all guests in KVM?
I wasn't able to create snapshots with UEFI VMs but that was from the GUI. I haven't using tried creating snapshots via command.
In KVM, you can't snapshot UEFI VM's.
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@FATeknollogee said in Nginx VM:
@black3dynamite said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
Another question - Is there any reason NOT to use UEFI boot on all guests in KVM?
I wasn't able to create snapshots with UEFI VMs but that was from the GUI. I haven't using tried creating snapshots via command.
In KVM, you can't snapshot UEFI VM's.
That's just poop.
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@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
@scottalanmiller I've just been using virt-manager and some ssh. I have Cockpit running on the host but haven't used it for management. It doesn't seem to reflect the guests that are running in the Cockpit gui. The cockpit-machines package is installed.
oVirt provides a mechanism for moving VMs between the hosts.
https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/vmm-guide/chap-Administrative_Tasks.html
Look under "Exporting and Importing Virtual Machines"
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@FATeknollogee said in Nginx VM:
@black3dynamite said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
Another question - Is there any reason NOT to use UEFI boot on all guests in KVM?
I wasn't able to create snapshots with UEFI VMs but that was from the GUI. I haven't using tried creating snapshots via command.
In KVM, you can't snapshot UEFI VM's.
Do you know why?
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@black3dynamite said in Nginx VM:
@FATeknollogee said in Nginx VM:
@black3dynamite said in Nginx VM:
@brandon220 said in Nginx VM:
Another question - Is there any reason NOT to use UEFI boot on all guests in KVM?
I wasn't able to create snapshots with UEFI VMs but that was from the GUI. I haven't using tried creating snapshots via command.
In KVM, you can't snapshot UEFI VM's.
Do you know why?
On the IRC user group, I asked & was told it's a feature that has not been enabled.
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@black3dynamite Found the thread, it was on the virt-tools-list not IRC.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/virt-tools-list/2017-September/msg00008.html -
@scottalanmiller said in Nginx VM:
Is any platform really just one step? There is a lot of detail needed to move a VM from one machine to another. A single step can't account for all of that. I don't think Hyper-V or ESXi offer that, either.
OK, that's true - but really - please type out all of the exact steps to do it in KVM.
I've done it a few times (my first time actually) over the last few days in Hyper-V. it's all point and click in the GUI - and I'm sure with the commandline it would be like 100 characters .
