Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.
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I've been working with Veeam support on this. They are telling me that I can use the new Cloud Tier option in update 4 instead of Cloudberry to offload Veeam backups to cheap cloud storage (I plan to choose Wasabi). Since this feature is so new it's hard to know all the cons at the moment. I'm going to try and skip the extra CloudBerry license costs to use the new Veeam Cloud Tier option already built into my Veeam Enterprise license to offload backups to Wasabi. I can update this post after I complete it.
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We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
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@JasGot
As you have customers on Unitrends, have you tried Unitrends MSP? I am intrigued by it.
I have no current relation to Unitrends and I have a trust problem with them now that the company is part of Kaseya but I know someone who says it works well.
I am more into Veeam but I miss a real, full featured multi-tenant console. -
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto.
I used to work literally across the street from them. Their headquarters and ours faced each other on a side street.
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@dave_c said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot
As you have customers on Unitrends, have you tried Unitrends MSP? I am intrigued by it.
I have no current relation to Unitrends and I have a trust problem with them now that the company is part of Kaseya but I know someone who says it works well.
I am more into Veeam but I miss a real, full featured multi-tenant console.I have not.
I spent 2 hours a day on the phone with them, at least 3 days a week for over two months working on a VPN setup for instant VM DR from a remote location. In the end, they said, "yeah, we can't figure out how to do it."
That when I decide to go looking......
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@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
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@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
In what way? The VMs sitting on our local Datto appliance are up and running in about 40 seconds.
Same for those we spin up in the cloud.Now bringing a full system restore down from cloud storage can only be as fast as your ISP connection.
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@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
In what way? The VMs sitting on our local Datto appliance are up and running in about 40 seconds.
Same for those we spin up in the cloud.Now bringing a full system restore down from cloud storage can only be as fast as your ISP connection.
What are your resources on the VM? Like are you running a VM with 80 GB of Data or TB of Data?
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@dbeato I've had Datto brought up to me in conversations in the past year. I'm interested to see if it fits with our refresh coming up. Right now, all options are on the table.
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@scotth said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
the past year. I'm interested to see if it fits with our refresh coming up. Right now, all options are on the table.
It is nice to have, but depends of your budget and what you have. What do you have?
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@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@scotth said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
the past year. I'm interested to see if it fits with our refresh coming up. Right now, all options are on the table.
It is nice to have, but depends of your budget and what you have. What do you have?
Just a local backup target. Nothing offsite.
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@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
In what way? The VMs sitting on our local Datto appliance are up and running in about 40 seconds.
Same for those we spin up in the cloud.Now bringing a full system restore down from cloud storage can only be as fast as your ISP connection.
What are your resources on the VM? Like are you running a VM with 80 GB of Data or TB of Data?
Most are 150GBish
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@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
In what way? The VMs sitting on our local Datto appliance are up and running in about 40 seconds.
Same for those we spin up in the cloud.Now bringing a full system restore down from cloud storage can only be as fast as your ISP connection.
What are your resources on the VM? Like are you running a VM with 80 GB of Data or TB of Data?
Most are 150GBish
Yeah, That I can spin up fast. But we have some clients with VMs that have about 2 to 4 TB so 40 seconds is not that realistic for that size but still fast.
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@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
In what way? The VMs sitting on our local Datto appliance are up and running in about 40 seconds.
Same for those we spin up in the cloud.Now bringing a full system restore down from cloud storage can only be as fast as your ISP connection.
What are your resources on the VM? Like are you running a VM with 80 GB of Data or TB of Data?
Most are 150GBish
Yeah, That I can spin up fast. But we have some clients with VMs that have about 2 to 4 TB so 40 seconds is not that realistic for that size but still fast.
Have you considered splitting their OS from that much data?
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@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@dbeato said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
@JasGot said in Looking to migrate backup service to Unitrends.:
We've been a Cloudberry Provider for many years. We have some customers on Unitrends.
We are in the process of moving all our customers to Datto. It's partner channel only, so you'll have to find someone to work through.
We are putting an appliance onsite; with forever cloud copy.
I hate Unitrends for a plethora of reasons, and I just don't have a high level of confidence in Cloudberry anymore.
Also, I do like the idea of the onsite appliance for quick recovery rather than downloading fro the cloud (current Cloudberry setup).
Datto's backups are all stored P2V, you can spin up a VM of someone's PC or your server in about 40 seconds. I like this part.
Datto restore aren't that fast as far as I have tried and we have many appliances.
In what way? The VMs sitting on our local Datto appliance are up and running in about 40 seconds.
Same for those we spin up in the cloud.Now bringing a full system restore down from cloud storage can only be as fast as your ISP connection.
What are your resources on the VM? Like are you running a VM with 80 GB of Data or TB of Data?
Most are 150GBish
Yeah, That I can spin up fast. But we have some clients with VMs that have about 2 to 4 TB so 40 seconds is not that realistic for that size but still fast.
Have you considered splitting their OS from that much data?
That is how they are, OS is about 150 GB to 200 GB tops. Other VHD/VHDX are for Data.
