Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times
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@manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.
Ugh..
Yeah the hidden setting is just dumb!!
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@manxam said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender : I literally JUST went through this with a client. All GPO's configured to monitor sleep & lock after 15 minutes which, after a fresh reboot, was stable.
Once the monitor went to sleep and was wakened, the systems would go to full sleep every 2 minutes.
I had to apply the same registry "hack" via GPO.This was extremely annoying to the staff and made us look pretty incompetent as the control panel, powercfg.exe, etc all showed that the settings were being applied properly.
Ugh..
Hey
@manxam enabling this via GPO only makes the setting visible. Did your users then have to manually set it?I'm trying to find a way to set the actual setting to a value using GPO - did you find one?
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I think I've figured it out.
The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384The three different sections are for
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0] "Attributes"=dword:00000002 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e] "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c] "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a] "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 -
Sigh - these registry settings don't fix the issue.
And I'm starting to get more users complaining about this issue.
So far I only seem to be able to fix it manually via the GUI.
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I figure I owe an update here.
These reg entries are in hex... 00000078 = 120 (seconds) in decimal. i.e. 2 mins.. sigh I completely over looked this. No wonder the times weren't changing.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
I think I've figured it out.
The dwords need to be replaced with the hex value you want for the auto sleep after wakeup with no user interaction to kick in.
The value set in my example is 120 seconds (the default). You should make your values higher than your normal sleep timeout. Example, if sleep is set after 15 mins, you should use dword:00000384The three different sections are for
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0] "Attributes"=dword:00000002 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e] "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\8c5e7fda-e8bf-4a96-9a85-a6e23a8c635c] "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\PowerSettings\238C9FA8-0AAD-41ED-83F4-97BE242C8F20\7bc4a2f9-d8fc-4469-b07b-33eb785aaca0\DefaultPowerSchemeValues\a1841308-3541-4fab-bc81-f71556f20b4a] "AcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078 "DcSettingIndex"=dword:00000078So would the answer be
0if you never want the device to Sleep? -
I had this issue with my HP Omen, but it went away after going back to Windows from Fedora...when I failed miserably to play games on Linux....lol
My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.
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@kamidon said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
My workaround was just to turn sleep mode off. I just did this via the GUI in settings.
Yeah disabling sleep mode would solve the issue.
@WrCombs said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
So would the answer be
0if you never want the device to Sleep?That's a good question - nothing I ran into showed that as an option. Everything pointed to just making it longer.
But this is a non issue if you disable Sleep mode completely.
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Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
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@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
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@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
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@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
powercfg-hibernate offis what you're thinking ?
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@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
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@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.
Ahhh. I see.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.
Nope - not according to MS
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation -
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.
Nope - not according to MS
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernationYou read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.
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@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.
Nope - not according to MS
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernation"... a fast startup simply loads the hibernation file (Hiberfil.sys) into memory to restore the previously saved image of the Windows kernel and loaded drivers."
This is a hibernation explanation is its simplest form.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@RojoLoco said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@wrx7m said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@JaredBusch said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
@Dashrender said in Windows 10 goes to sleep outside listed sleep times:
Small update - something else to consider changing - disable Fast Boot.
Fast Boot means when you restart the computer, it doesn't do a full shutdown. It's likely that counters that are often reset upon a full reboot, aren't reset on a Fast Boot.
Fast boot used to be called hibernation. It is a fucking stupid nasty feature
Interesting. But, they also still have hibernation.
Easy to fix that - admin CMD window -> powercfg -hibernate off
I meant, they still have a separate function for hibernate. Why would they offer both, if they are the same thing?
You don't understand fast boot is hibernation. it is 100% the same thing. Just automatic.
Nope - not according to MS
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/kernel/distinguishing-fast-startup-from-wake-from-hibernationYou read that wrong. it is 100% hibernation. The only thing that article states is that unlike user requested hibernation, it closes all applications first.
Well that seems right on the verge of pointless. The OS itself doesn't take long to come up, and if my state is all lost, I've gone through 95% of the effort of powering down with only 10% of the benefit.
