Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
A year ago or more the prices were higher, not even sure there were 8TB drives at all? I think the 2TB drives were around $200 each, and the Synolgy about $400, so it was $800+ fully configured.
8TB released in 2014, 10TB in 2015, and 12TB in 2017. 14TB should be out with limited availability now.
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I don't know how to put a price on data.
As the IT guy, it is for you to give a cost to recovery, it's up to the business to tell you how much the data is worth. They set the budget, so they had already determined the value.
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@scottalanmiller said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I don't know how to put a price on data.
As the IT guy, it is for you to give a cost to recovery, it's up to the business to tell you how much the data is worth. They set the budget, so they had already determined the value.
I appreciate the advice of enterprise IT thinking but that's just not how I've seen it in small business. The only thing small biz owners ever do is haggle about price. Waaaa no way I'm "renting" MS Office. Waaaa no way I'm "renting" Adobe CS. Waaaa no way I want to pay a monthly fee for EVERY employee!! Waaaa what do you mean we need central management of XY service? Waaa I don't want to pay for hosting!
I provide pros and cons, options, and prices, and lay out the risks. They make the decisions. I'm not the one who demands we "share" O365 accounts, that was their brilliant plan to avoid $30 more a month. I'm quite tired of it really.
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I appreciate the advice of enterprise IT thinking but that's just not how I've seen it in small business.
Well, there are really only two choices...
The business takes the time to DETERMINE this. Or...
No one knows.
IT doesn't have the slightest power to determine the value, it's just not reasonably possible. You aren't the CFO, owner, or even the accountant.
So even in the smallest SMB, it's always the way that I said. They might see their data is "too worthless to bother figuring out", and that is very common. But one way or another, the business side is the only possible determiner of the value.
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I provide pros and cons, options, and prices, and lay out the risks. They make the decisions.
Exactly, and their responses are how they tell you how much they see the data as being worth.
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@scottalanmiller said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I provide pros and cons, options, and prices, and lay out the risks. They make the decisions.
Exactly, and their responses are how they tell you how much they see the data as being worth.
It's a catch 22 though. If they decide they want to take some risk, and then bad things happen, they don't own up to it, they just attack me like "why didn't you prepare for that!"
Either way, I end up the bad guy.
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
that's just not how I've seen it in small business
I came from small business and the reason you haven't seen it that way is because small business' reasoning is terrible 99% of the time
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@scottalanmiller said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I provide pros and cons, options, and prices, and lay out the risks. They make the decisions.
Exactly, and their responses are how they tell you how much they see the data as being worth.
It's a catch 22 though. If they decide they want to take some risk, and then bad things happen, they don't own up to it, they just attack me like "why didn't you prepare for that!"
Either way, I end up the bad guy.
Everything in writing. Literally. Also get out of there. They aren't paying you enough obviously.
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@coliver said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@scottalanmiller said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I provide pros and cons, options, and prices, and lay out the risks. They make the decisions.
Exactly, and their responses are how they tell you how much they see the data as being worth.
It's a catch 22 though. If they decide they want to take some risk, and then bad things happen, they don't own up to it, they just attack me like "why didn't you prepare for that!"
Either way, I end up the bad guy.
Everything in writing. Literally. Also get out of there. They aren't paying you enough obviously.
This. I've been there multiple times and I leave every time
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I'm not the one who demands we "share" O365 accounts, that was their brilliant plan to avoid $30 more a month. I'm quite tired of it really.
You may want to look at your licensing for O365 and report this to Microsoft. Generally licenses can't be shared and are per user.
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@scottalanmiller said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I provide pros and cons, options, and prices, and lay out the risks. They make the decisions.
Exactly, and their responses are how they tell you how much they see the data as being worth.
It's a catch 22 though. If they decide they want to take some risk, and then bad things happen, they don't own up to it, they just attack me like "why didn't you prepare for that!"
Either way, I end up the bad guy.
True, but that's the nature of not being the owner. They will never want to own up to mistakes. But whatever they do, they set the budget based on their interpretation of their own value. That's it. No matter what politics are at play, that's what is happening.
That they blame you for their mistakes is neither here nor there. You don't have the power to fix their mistakes, and it isn't directly related to the case at hand but to all cases.
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@coliver said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I'm not the one who demands we "share" O365 accounts, that was their brilliant plan to avoid $30 more a month. I'm quite tired of it really.
You may want to look at your licensing for O365 and report this to Microsoft. Generally licenses can't be shared and are per user.
And definitely not with O365. It's not a grey area at all, it's straight up theft.
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Honestly if they are asking you to break the law (as is evidenced not once but twice in this conversation) you need to GTFO before you're culpable.
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@scottalanmiller said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@coliver said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
I'm not the one who demands we "share" O365 accounts, that was their brilliant plan to avoid $30 more a month. I'm quite tired of it really.
You may want to look at your licensing for O365 and report this to Microsoft. Generally licenses can't be shared and are per user.
And definitely not with O365. It's not a grey area at all, it's straight up theft.
I have much bigger concerns in my life then worrying over whether MS is losing out $30 a month.
And I know, I've spent most of my time on mangolassi ranting about my job, lol. But the time is coming to leave, as my side business is growing and I'm ready to do my own thing. Hopefully this year, I'm out. Hopefully within the next couple months.
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Why not just use everything cloud hosted for this 11 employee company? All this money, time and effort makes no sense when each user gets a TB of disk space on Office 365.
If you are really paranoid, then back up to another cloud provider. All this equipment and man hours make no sense on 11 person company. Just pay for each user like you're supposed to and you will have all the resources you need.
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@irj hahahahahha
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@irj I think you missed everything he posted about this business
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When the company you work for is just a joke, you know it's time to leave.
Wouldn't I love to just demand we buy a 365 account for everybody, at the level that gives us Sharepoint, then simply force ourselves to use the system as-is and stop whining if some feature isn't exactly the way they want. Ya wouldn't that be nice.
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@guyinpv said in Synology one bad sector crashes whole volume RAID0:
When the company you work for is just a joke, you know it's time to leave.
Wouldn't I love to just demand we buy a 365 account for everybody, at the level that gives us Sharepoint, then simply force ourselves to use the system as-is and stop whining if some feature isn't exactly the way they want. Ya wouldn't that be nice.
Your company seriously can't afford $137.50/month??? ($12.50/user/month for 11 users)
Do the owners/decision makers know that it's really only that $12.50 per user? Do they think it's some outrageously expensive service? I just don't understand...
In your other post you say "There is no way I'm paying $140/m for Dropbox Business for 11 employees to have their own accounts. It's not necessary here, all way want is shared access to one master folder and very robust desktop sync."
Are you personally spending the money? $140 a month should be next to nothing for your company... it's like 8 cents/hour/employee
