UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect
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@jaredbusch said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 I have not used this product, but it sounds like something I need to review.
I'd really consider it in a lot of situations, let me know how your review goes.
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@coliver said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Wondering if it could replace our Tivoli endpoint backup.
You can use this for endpoint or server backups, it's capable of file and whole image based backups. It has a separate recovery medium to use from CD or USB as well.
It seems to cover the entire range of things that most places would need.
How it performs on huge systems is what I wonder. 100TB of data etc.
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Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
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@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
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@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
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@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
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@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
No, it is all inclusive with Linux and Mac too.
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@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
Pretty universally available.
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@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
I think he was referring to the 2TB limitation for VHD files?
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I'm actually testing out the file level backups now. Throwing ~400 GB at it to see what happens.
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@dafyre said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
I'm actually testing out the file level backups now. Throwing ~400 GB at it to see what happens.
Let me know how it performs
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@dafyre said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
I think he was referring to the 2TB limitation for VHD files?
Yeah, that is probably why.
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@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dafyre said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
I think he was referring to the 2TB limitation for VHD files?
Yeah, that is probably why.
It shoud be noted that limitation is only for the Image based backups.
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@dafyre said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
I think he was referring to the 2TB limitation for VHD files?
Why VHD instead of VHDX? Better yet, why not use qcow2 or raw images?
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@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dafyre said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
I think he was referring to the 2TB limitation for VHD files?
Why VHD instead of VHDX? Better yet, why not use qcow2 or raw images?
All good questions.
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@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dafyre said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@black3dynamite said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@dbeato said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Last time I used UrBackup was trying to replace Amanda Backup and Bacula.
Did you succeed?
It worked great on the web interface but it was for a small non profit organization so it works and I believe it is still working. At the time I didn't think of this limitations:
Is UrBackup more geared toward Windows?
I think he was referring to the 2TB limitation for VHD files?
Why VHD instead of VHDX? Better yet, why not use qcow2 or raw images?
Dev here. It can backup to raw image files and there is no 2TB restriction then, but you need to use either ZFS or btrfs as file system for the backup storage (with Linux or FreeBSD/FreeNAS).
You'd want to store the backups on a file system that can compress data anyway, so I recommend using either of those two. -
@uroni are there any major limitations that you can point out as a lot of us are investigating the solution. Anything that we need to watch out for?
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@dustinb3403 said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
@uroni are there any major limitations that you can point out as a lot of us are investigating the solution. Anything that we need to watch out for?
- If you are backing up files that are partially updated (e.g. Database files, Outlook .pst files), you'll have whole file copies of updated files unless you use btrfs as backup storage.
- Backup performance usually is limited by backup storage random IO, especially when using it with ZFS or btrfs and raw images (so maybe use RAID10 instead of RAID6). I guess this can come as a surprise if you are used other backup systems which write linearly to backup storage (or tapes).
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@uroni said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
- Backup performance usually is limited by backup storage random IO, especially when using it with ZFS or btrfs and raw images (so maybe use RAID10 instead of RAID6). I guess this can come as a surprise if you are used other backup systems which write linearly to backup storage (or tapes).
That is, indeed, good to know. I would not have guessed that.
Does UrBackup have a process for writing to tape as well?
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@scottalanmiller said in UrBackup and FreeNAS Jurassic Park Effect:
Does UrBackup have a process for writing to tape as well?
No, it is wholly disk based and additionally leverages advanced file system features (such as snapshots, reflinks, compression) when available.
