Toshiba OCZ PCIe SSD Z-Drive 4500
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For a more normal SMB wanting a sweet database setup you would more likely get two SATA SSD in RAID 1 for under $600 and blow the doors off anything you've ever seen.
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@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
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So far I've only been able to use 1 SSD. I was so pleased with the results that I will never use regular drives in a system I buy for myself ever again. Less moving parts = less chance of something failing. Not to mention the insane read / write increases you see. Having an array of SSD's would make for one sweet server, one that could be stood up for a while.
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
So far I've only been able to use 1 SSD. I was so pleased with the results that I will never use regular drives in a system I buy for myself ever again. Less moving parts = less chance of something failing. Not to mention the insane read / write increases you see. Having an array of SSD's would make for one sweet server, one that could be stood up for a while.
Same here. Love them. NTG went to all SSD desktops and laptops years ago. Such a good thing.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.
OK I'm lost - when would you use enterprise SSDs then?
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@Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?
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I swapped a samsung evo 840 into my laptop and it SCREAMS!!!
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller Enterprise SSDs? boy I guess their prices must have fallen through the floor lately?
No, why use enterprise. Consumer SSD in RAID 1 will be way better than what you are used to.
OK I'm lost - when would you use enterprise SSDs then?
When you have specific support, longevity or performance needs that demand them.
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@Bill-Kindle said:
@Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?
Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.
I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.
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@Dashrender said:
@Bill-Kindle said:
@Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?
Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.
I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.
I remember reading articles where some early adopters really dogged on SSD's but failed to mention that they were on the bleeding edge and those issues should have been expected. But 2 years might as well be 2 centuries in the progress that has been made with SSD technology. Just take a look at some of the developments that SanDisk for instance has made in the area.
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@Dashrender said:
@Bill-Kindle said:
@Dashrender Better I/O performance over consumer grade?
Yeah If I just stop and think about it - the answer is when the situation calls for what it provides.
I guess I'm still a little stuck in two years ago, when SSDs were still flaky at the consumer level. I purchased three SSD drives back then and one of the three did fail. I've seen Scott say and read elsewhere that SSDs are significantly more reliable today even just a few years later.
Even two years ago they rocked. The myth and rumor around SSD is so strong that it seems like issues were that recent but it has actually been much longer.
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Seems like it's going to be like RAID 5, something that's hard to shake loose from people's thoughts.
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And then when you move to SSD, RAID 5 can make sense again. Lol
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@scottalanmiller circle of life.....
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@scottalanmiller said:
And then when you move to SSD, RAID 5 can make sense again. Lol
Not worth still skipping it and sticking with RAID 6? I take it URE's are enough of a non issue?
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@Dashrender said:
@scottalanmiller said:
And then when you move to SSD, RAID 5 can make sense again. Lol
Not worth still skipping it and sticking with RAID 6? I take it URE's are enough of a non issue?
So far, URE doesn't conceptually exist in the SSD world. It's a spinning rust issue.
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RAID 6 would keep other benefits, of course.
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What about DAC? isn't that still a factor with any parity RAID?
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@Dashrender said:
What about DAC? isn't that still a factor with any parity RAID?
Yes it is. However, it is suspected that much of DAC is a second order consequence of URE. And also a lot of DAC is believed to come from drive vibration. Both things are fixed with SSD. So it is believed that the likelihood of DAC is lower.
