UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today"

[Mike Davis]

I think the decision is easier when you consider the alternatives. I'm rolling the Edge Routers because even if I have to manage them manually, I'd rather do that than pay for Meraki and that model year after year.

[gjacobse]

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching/UNMS-for-EdgeMax-vs-UniFi-Controller-for-UniFi/td-p/1941008

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I can answer this one - no. There's no plan to use UNMS in place of the UniFi controller. THey do different things for different product lines.

At some point (Q4 of this year according to the released timeline) UNMS will be able to monitor UniFi controllers as endpoints in UNMS. This will be to make sure they are still there and get some basic info, but not to allow complete management like UniFi already does. UniFi Controller will remain the way you set up and manage the UniFi line of products.

Jim
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[bnrstnr]

@gjacobse Looks like he's asking if UNMS is production ready for the EdgeMax line of routers, not it's ability to manage Unifi products.

[bigbear]

@bnrstnr said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

@gjacobse Looks like he's asking if UNMS is production ready for the EdgeMax line of routers, not it's ability to manage Unifi products.

Yeah sorry, no meraki, no cross management. Just asking if bought today would you rather...

UNMS + Edge Routers

or

Unifi + Ubiquiti USG Routers

If the UNMS with Edge Routers isnt production ready I would rather send them in a direction I know will work. I will have no regrets later because I am not managing any of this...

[coliver]

@bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

UNMS + Edge Routers

UNMS + Edge Routers

[bigbear]

@coliver said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

@bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

UNMS + Edge Routers

UNMS + Edge Routers

Is any part of this still in Beta? I remember last I was poking around a saw something to do with a beta firmware for the ER-X being required.

[brianlittlejohn]

UNMS is mostly monitoring right now. Very little config can be done from it, however it does centralize device backup configs to a single place.

[JaredBusch]

In regards to the capability of Units talking to UNMS, nothing with the EdgeMax router line is beta. Has not been for months. The EdgeSwitch was beta until last week or so when the latest firmware went from beta to production.

UNMS itself is still carrying the "beta" tag, but it is in full public beta release now.

[JaredBusch]

@bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

@bnrstnr said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

@gjacobse Looks like he's asking if UNMS is production ready for the EdgeMax line of routers, not it's ability to manage Unifi products.

Yeah sorry, no meraki, no cross management. Just asking if bought today would you rather...

UNMS + Edge Routers

or

Unifi + Ubiquiti USG Routers

If the UNMS with Edge Routers isnt production ready I would rather send them in a direction I know will work. I will have no regrets later because I am not managing any of this...

UniFi routers suck horribly. They are just EdgeMax router hardware with different firmware anyway.

[JaredBusch]

This is what you see currently when you click on an ERL in UNMS.

[JaredBusch]

I can then click on Interfaces and then an interface and get this.

[JaredBusch]

Routing, you can add a static route.

or OSPF

[JaredBusch]

You cannot configure services, but you can turn some on and off.

[bigbear]

@jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

This is what you see currently when you click on an ERL in UNMS.

Thanks @JaredBusch, can they use DPI to see who is screwing the internet with Youtube, they way they could do with a local ERX via the IP address on the lan?

[hobbit666]

@JaredBusch Would you run a Unifi Controller on the same VM as a UMNS? Or have them Separate?

[JaredBusch]

@bigbear said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

@jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

This is what you see currently when you click on an ERL in UNMS.

Thanks @JaredBusch, can they use DPI to see who is screwing the internet with Youtube, they way they could do with a local ERX via the IP address on the lan?

No, the DPI info is not in UNMS yet.

[JaredBusch]

@hobbit666 said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

@JaredBusch Would you run a Unifi Controller on the same VM as a UMNS? Or have them Separate?

UNMS runs in a docker container, unless you like pain.

[JaredBusch]

@bigbear The statistics are just high level at this time.

The latency & outage is a measure from the unit to the UNMS controller.

[JaredBusch]

You can click on almost any IP on any screen and it will pop it into a browser window. So if you have rules setup for that, you will be taken directly to the unit's login.

[bigbear]

@jaredbusch said in UNMS vs Unifi for a deployment "today":

You can click on almost any IP on any screen and it will pop it into a browser window. So if you have rules setup for that, you will be taken directly to the unit's login.

The only thing I can see suited to their described needs in the Unifi is the ability to use the web browser or mobile app to remotely look at what is going on with internet access when users start complaining about the speed slowing down.

I have a Unifi at home and I use the mobile app to block my kids at night, and can see they are on Youtube, etc.

I have always preferred the Edgemax, only bought the Unifi when I started reading here about the Unifi controller software.