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    • CCWTechC
      CCWTech @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @dashrender I have set up another VM (In this case Windows 7 Pro 64 bit with SP1)

      It's slow on this machine as well.

      Anything outside of the VM where this app runs is slow (virtual or physical machines).

      I haven't enabled SMB 1, does that need to be done on the VM and Physical machine?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        Ideally you'd want to use the very latest SMB protocol. But that doesn't appear to be the issue regardless.

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        • CCWTechC
          CCWTech @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

          Ideally you'd want to use the very latest SMB protocol. But that doesn't appear to be the issue regardless.

          Ok, it had been suggested here.

          I'm just looking for anything else to try at this point.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Maybe there is a DNS issue and things are stalling on resolution?

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

              Maybe there is a DNS issue and things are stalling on resolution?

              It was still slow via IP too.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                Maybe there is a DNS issue and things are stalling on resolution?

                It was still slow via IP too.

                Oh, so much for that theory.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite
                  last edited by

                  I forgot Windows 2016 includes Windows Defender now. Try accessing the application with Windows Defender turned off on the server.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @CCWTech
                    last edited by

                    @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                    I haven't enabled SMB 1, does that need to be done on the VM and Physical machine?

                    While this shouldn't be the case, why not try it. Windows 10 1709 does have SMB v1 disabled by default, so you'd have to do both Server 2016 and Win 10 1709. I'm not sure if a WIndows Update turns it off on any other Windows desktop or server version.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      Since the host is a a full install of Windows Server 2016 - make a copy of the data folder and map it to a workstation and see what happens as another test.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @CCWTech
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                        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                        Their network switch is a Netgear GS748Tv5 and I upgraded the FW to the latest version.

                        Can you show us the config of the switch for the ports the server is plugged into, as well as one of the PCs?

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                        • Mike DavisM
                          Mike Davis @i3
                          last edited by

                          @i3 said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                          @ccwtech , what kind of file transfer speeds are you seeing?

                          I was wondering this as well. That will rule out the application or point to another problem.

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                          • CCWTechC
                            CCWTech @CCWTech
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                            @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                            Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                            20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @CCWTech
                              last edited by

                              @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                              @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                              Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                              20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                              Is that with IP or DNS?

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                              • CCWTechC
                                CCWTech @black3dynamite
                                last edited by

                                @black3dynamite said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                Is that with IP or DNS?

                                DNS I will try via IP

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                  The implementation of VMQ was rolled out so badly.

                                  I ranted on it in a thread more than a year ago.
                                  https://mangolassi.it/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                                  You can disable it on the NICs quite easily.

                                  Get-NetAdapterVmq | Disable-NetAdapterVmq
                                  

                                  If you haven't done this, I'm going to suggest this again. Run it on the Hyper-V host. I've seen this clear up issues on both Intel and Broadcom chips.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @CCWTech
                                    last edited by

                                    @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                    @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                    Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                    20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                    Yeah, 160 Mb/s on a 1 GB line, that is pretty slow.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @dafyre
                                      last edited by Dashrender

                                      @dafyre said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                      @jaredbusch said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                      The implementation of VMQ was rolled out so badly.

                                      I ranted on it in a thread more than a year ago.
                                      https://mangolassi.it/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                                      You can disable it on the NICs quite easily.

                                      Get-NetAdapterVmq | Disable-NetAdapterVmq
                                      

                                      If you haven't done this, I'm going to suggest this again. Run it on the Hyper-V host. I've seen this clear up issues on both Intel and Broadcom chips.

                                      I know I've suggested running this several times since it was first mentioned.
                                      How about showing the output for

                                       Get-NetworkAdapterVmq
                                      
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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                        @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                        Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                        20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                        Yeah, 160 Mb/s on a 1 GB line, that is pretty slow.

                                        Actually, that's not all that bad. SMB is insanely chatty.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                          Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                          20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                          Yeah, 160 Mb/s on a 1 GB line, that is pretty slow.

                                          Actually, that's not all that bad. SMB is insanely chatty.

                                          I can typically transfer over 500 Mb/s on my network between Win10 and Server 2012R2.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            @dashrender said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            @ccwtech said in Network setup - Hyper-V:

                                            Transfer speed of a folder with files (about 300 Meg) is about 20 MB/s

                                            20 MB/s which seems VERY slow to me.

                                            Yeah, 160 Mb/s on a 1 GB line, that is pretty slow.

                                            Actually, that's not all that bad. SMB is insanely chatty.

                                            I can typically transfer over 500 Mb/s on my network between Win10 and Server 2012R2.

                                            What SMB version?

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