Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
When you get married you are also marrying their family. Someone help me
LOL - obviously not in @JaredBusch case
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@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
When you get married you are also marrying their family. Someone help me
LOL - obviously not in @JaredBusch case
He's just mad I won't leave my wife for him. I'm sorry JB it's just complicated
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@scottalanmiller said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
Good summary. I can hear myself saying that.
I can't believe it took more than 2 posts for someone to say it.
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Actually setting something like this up is about as stupid as it gets unless you plan to support it, and that is something I would never deal with.
What happens when you decide that Nextcloud has tanked and you need to switch to DropBox Pro.
What happens when you just want to turn it off and not pay for it anymore.
Screw that shit.
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@jaredbusch said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Actually setting something like this up is about as stupid as it gets unless you plan to support it, and that is something I would never deal with.
What happens when you decide that Nextcloud has tanked and you need to switch to DropBox Pro.
What happens when you just want to turn it off and not pay for it anymore.
Screw that shit.
I'd be hosting it at home. The Vutlr instance I mentioned was specifically for pi-hole. I can't tell them to screw themselves even though I'd love to. Creates problems for Laura. Happy wife happy life.
If I move from Nextcloud to something else obviously they would have to come with me. That would likely be self-hosted as well though.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@jaredbusch said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Actually setting something like this up is about as stupid as it gets unless you plan to support it, and that is something I would never deal with.
What happens when you decide that Nextcloud has tanked and you need to switch to DropBox Pro.
What happens when you just want to turn it off and not pay for it anymore.
Screw that shit.
I'd be hosting it at home. The Vutlr instance I mentioned was specifically for pi-hole. I can't tell them to screw themselves even though I'd love to. Creates problems for Laura. Happy wife happy life.
Sure you can. Tell them to go buy their own solution.
You are mixing issues. That is the problem.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
I'd be hosting it at home. The Vutlr instance I mentioned was specifically for pi-hole. I can't tell them to screw themselves even though I'd love to. Creates problems for Laura. Happy wife happy life.
You just say that you don't have a solution for them, which is the truth, you really don't, you'd have to buy capacity to make this work.
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@jaredbusch said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@jaredbusch said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Actually setting something like this up is about as stupid as it gets unless you plan to support it, and that is something I would never deal with.
What happens when you decide that Nextcloud has tanked and you need to switch to DropBox Pro.
What happens when you just want to turn it off and not pay for it anymore.
Screw that shit.
I'd be hosting it at home. The Vutlr instance I mentioned was specifically for pi-hole. I can't tell them to screw themselves even though I'd love to. Creates problems for Laura. Happy wife happy life.
Sure you can. Tell them to go buy their own solution.
You are mixing issues. That is the problem.
I see your point
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Maybe you could try convincing them that any of the free products out there (OneDrive, Google Drive, etc.) are as secure as a self-hosted NextCloud.
If not more so.
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@brrabill said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Maybe you could try convincing them that any of the free products out there (OneDrive, Google Drive, etc.) are as secure as a self-hosted NextCloud.
If not more so.
You're also giving your files over to a third party where as the third party in my example is me, whom they trust. I'd rather just buy them chromebooks tbh.
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
This is not frugal, this is cheap. There is a difference
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@wirestyle22 said
You're also giving your files over to a third party where as the third party in my example is me, whom they trust. I'd rather just buy them chromebooks tbh.
Yes but that third party is relying on multiple ... uh ... fourth parties. You now also have to trust Vultr and Nextcloud and whoever else.
Put on your ML hat and convince them!
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@brrabill said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said
You're also giving your files over to a third party where as the third party in my example is me, whom they trust. I'd rather just buy them chromebooks tbh.
Yes but that third party is relying on multiple ... uh ... fourth parties. You now also have to trust Vultr and Nextcloud and whoever else.
Put on your ML hat and convince them!
No Vultr, only NC
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@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@dashrender said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@irj said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
Recently my family has asked me a lot of security related questions due to increased paranoia via the media. They wanted a way for them to send files securely. I of course said I can give them access to my Nextcloud server for their personal use but only for sending files, not for storing them indefinitely. I don't want to have to go into
/var/www/nextcloud/data/to audit what they have and how long they have had it there, so I wanted to create a cron job that deletes anything that has existed for 7 days, but only for certain users. Any advice or resources you guys have to offer would be appreciated, including alternative methods. Thanks.Just add space to your server and let your parent's have a regular account with regular permissions or or have them pay for a hosted server
My fiance's Mom and Dad are the worst kind of computer paranoid. When you combine that with how frugal they are it's almost unworkable. After a conversation about how paranoid they were about viruses/bad websites I offered to build a $2.50/month pi-hole server on Vultr that the entire family can use and that was too much money to give you an idea of what I'm talking about here.
LOL - OMG, then they really aren't that paranoid, because clearly they aren't willing to do what must be done to get over the paranoia.
I'm convinced these people like to live in a constant state of fear. There is no other explanation for their behavior.
Now sure why this is your problem to solve?
Not a Psychiatrist, just the best damned IT tech they know. Since I'm the only one I'm also the worst IT tech they know too.
LOL - but you allow yourself to be made to work for them for free.
I'm not as heartless as @JaredBusch , but I definitely don't do things that cause issue for me.
It's not that much work though. I'm just giving them access with some restrictions
until it breaks, or they forget how to use it, etc, etc, etc... it's a life long commitment to support.
When you get married you are also marrying their family. Someone help me
PREACH
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@wirestyle22 said
No Vultr, only NC
Even less secure, unless you have some sort of kick-ass security system.
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@brrabill said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said
No Vultr, only NC
Even less secure, unless you have some sort of kick-ass security system.
More insurance than security. If everything goes to hell I told Laura to poison me without my knowledge
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@wirestyle22 said
More insurance than security. If everything goes to hell I told Laura to poison me without my knowledge
I can come run you over with my car. I work close enough.
Or maybe your car. No offense, I like my car.
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@brrabill said in Self-Imposed Nextcloud Limitations:
@wirestyle22 said
More insurance than security. If everything goes to hell I told Laura to poison me without my knowledge
I can come run you over with my car. I work close enough.
Or maybe your car. No offense, I like my car.
As long as my injuries are fatal I don't care what you hit me with
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@wirestyle22 said
As long as my injuries are fatal I don't care what you hit me with
This clears me from any liability, I hope.
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Another way to remove the files is the systemd-tmpfiles service. Just add a config under
/etc/tmpfiles.d/folder.confd /path/to/nextcloud/dir/ - - - 7dYou may or may not need to restart the timer ( I'm not 100% sure)
systemctl restart systemd-tmpfiles-clean.timerAnd then the service
systemctl restart systemd-tmpfiles-cleanTmpfiles does it's checks once a day or 15 mins after a reboot. You can have it create files, dirs, symlinks, characters devs, etc if they don't exist. It also cleans dirs and sets attributes and a bunch of stuff.
