question about Hyper-V resource management?
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Computer Management -> Action -> Connect to another computer... -> Your Hyper-V host
Exactly - what he's not telling you is that Computer Management is a completely different tool. It's the Windows tool.
If you came from ESXi or even XS, you're in for some surprises. Unlike ESXi and XS, there is no single pane of glass to see all of the things related to Hyper-V. Instead you have to manage all the components the exact same way you would a normal server. Computer Management handles a lot of them, but not all. For example, you can't look at Device Manager that way anymore - MS removed remote access a bit ago.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH... yes. Shit. LOL
yeah - this is why I #$#%^@ hate Hyper-V
ugh.. I wish I knew this before.. Maybe I'll just use the free version of ESXi instead..
no - you shouldn't do that. If you bail on Hyper-V, you should look at KVM instead, so you aren't leaving often needed/desired feature that are free in KVM and Hyper-V and cost a ton in ESXi.
well I do want to gain some experience with Hyper-V so maybe I'll stick it out.. I just need to find a centralized guide on this or something.. The way to do things so far has been murky and illusive.. Part of the problem may be that I'm so used to VMware with ESXi and vSphere.
I have a thread.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/15767/building-a-hyper-v-2016-host-take-2it covers all the things to get all the pieces working.
It assumes an Active Directory though.Oh nice! I will comb thru this. And I do have AD running here. Thanks!
You will find tons of guides here on ML.
I think this has become my favorite forum. Much nicer than reddit, less BS than Spiceworks.. everyone is nice and thorough and we have SAM ruling with an iron fist
Interesting, yet still you post on both....
Yeah they all serve their purposes for me, but this forum is by far the friendliest with actual knowledgeable people.
Very nice, at least their all accomplish their purpose and you get your answer and feel good about it
Y'all don't seem to know me real well do you?
LOL this seems to be the most awesome post of the day. I am laughing real hard lol.
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@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@tim_g said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dbeato said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dbeato said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@nerdydad said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
Computer Management -> Action -> Connect to another computer... -> Your Hyper-V host
Exactly - what he's not telling you is that Computer Management is a completely different tool. It's the Windows tool.
If you came from ESXi or even XS, you're in for some surprises. Unlike ESXi and XS, there is no single pane of glass to see all of the things related to Hyper-V. Instead you have to manage all the components the exact same way you would a normal server. Computer Management handles a lot of them, but not all. For example, you can't look at Device Manager that way anymore - MS removed remote access a bit ago.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH... yes. Shit. LOL
yeah - this is why I #$#%^@ hate Hyper-V
ugh.. I wish I knew this before.. Maybe I'll just use the free version of ESXi instead..
no - you shouldn't do that. If you bail on Hyper-V, you should look at KVM instead, so you aren't leaving often needed/desired feature that are free in KVM and Hyper-V and cost a ton in ESXi.
well I do want to gain some experience with Hyper-V so maybe I'll stick it out.. I just need to find a centralized guide on this or something.. The way to do things so far has been murky and illusive.. Part of the problem may be that I'm so used to VMware with ESXi and vSphere.
I have a thread.
https://mangolassi.it/topic/15767/building-a-hyper-v-2016-host-take-2it covers all the things to get all the pieces working.
It assumes an Active Directory though.Oh nice! I will comb thru this. And I do have AD running here. Thanks!
You will find tons of guides here on ML.
I think this has become my favorite forum. Much nicer than reddit, less BS than Spiceworks.. everyone is nice and thorough and we have SAM ruling with an iron fist
Interesting, yet still you post on both....
Yeah they all serve their purposes for me, but this forum is by far the friendliest with actual knowledgeable people.
Very nice, at least their all accomplish their purpose and you get your answer and feel good about it
Y'all don't seem to know me real well do you?
Obviously they don't.
@dbeato has met me in person. Maybe that ruined it.
It was awesome, still I feel like a minion when talking to @JaredBusch since I am all new on forums and so forth...
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If this is for a test lab then stick with it for now learn all the in's and out of the hypervisor then blow it away and use a real system lol
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@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
If this is for a test lab then stick with it for now learn all the in's and out of the hypervisor then blow it away and use a real system lol
Whats your beef with Hyper-V?
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@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
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@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
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@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
5Nine still has a free version. I have used it recently. I had no AD, so I used it to get my first AD machine up and running
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@penguinwrangler said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
5Nine still has a free version. I have used it recently. I had no AD, so I used it to get my first AD machine up and running
They do? They even told me directly that they did not.
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@scottalanmiller said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@penguinwrangler said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
5Nine still has a free version. I have used it recently. I had no AD, so I used it to get my first AD machine up and running
They do? They even told me directly that they did not.
Yes, they do I made a post about it
and it is still working after 14 days of trial. Up to 6 VMs and 1 host. -
@dbeato said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@scottalanmiller said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@penguinwrangler said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
5Nine still has a free version. I have used it recently. I had no AD, so I used it to get my first AD machine up and running
They do? They even told me directly that they did not.
Yes, they do I made a post about it
and it is still working after 14 days of trial. Up to 6 VMs and 1 host.That's not really free then. That's gimped... basically useless in any non-test or non-lab environment.
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@tim_g said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dbeato said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@scottalanmiller said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@penguinwrangler said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
5Nine still has a free version. I have used it recently. I had no AD, so I used it to get my first AD machine up and running
They do? They even told me directly that they did not.
Yes, they do I made a post about it
and it is still working after 14 days of trial. Up to 6 VMs and 1 host.That's not really free then. That's gimped... basically useless in any non-test or non-lab environment.
Correct, like many “free” technologies there is always a catch, at some point not everything can be run on the free. -
@dbeato said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@scottalanmiller said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@penguinwrangler said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jaredbusch said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@hobbit666 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@jimmy9008 tbh I've not tested it for 3-4 yrs, but just found it bloated and always had issues remote managing it from laptop/desktop.
Should really give it another go with 2016.
3-4 years ago you had 5Nine available for free. So it was easier.
5Nine still has a free version. I have used it recently. I had no AD, so I used it to get my first AD machine up and running
They do? They even told me directly that they did not.
Yes, they do I made a post about it
and it is still working after 14 days of trial. Up to 6 VMs and 1 host.Right, tha'ts what we mean by "not free".
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You can try using "Project Honolulu" for your management purposes. It's almost a "single pain in the ass" management console that has nothing to do with management itself but rather a configuration tool (basically various MMC snap-ins, Control Panel, Server Manager and so on brought to web) for windows. But it will solve your issues at current stage for sure.
More information here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/manage/honolulu/honolulu
Download: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/evaluate-windows-server-honoluluA 3rd-party alternative might be the 5nine manager (looks horrible but does it's job) https://www.5nine.com/5nine-manager-standard-edition/ or StarWind Manager https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-manager which is still in preview state or this one http://hv-manager.org/.
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@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
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@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
I'll bring it back around and say that now that I've gotten past the couple of annoying obstacles with Hyper-V and remote management, Hyper-V is freaking awesome. It seems lightning fast.
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@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
I'll bring it back around and say that now that I've gotten past the couple of annoying obstacles with Hyper-V and remote management, Hyper-V is freaking awesome. It seems lightning fast.
The annoying thing for me is the versioning needed to manage hyper-v. Example: For Hyper-V 2016 you need a windows 10 machine to manage it.
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@wirestyle22 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
I'll bring it back around and say that now that I've gotten past the couple of annoying obstacles with Hyper-V and remote management, Hyper-V is freaking awesome. It seems lightning fast.
The annoying thing for me is the versioning needed to manage hyper-v. Example: For Hyper-V 2016 you need a windows 10 machine to manage it.
No you don't.
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@tim_g said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@wirestyle22 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
I'll bring it back around and say that now that I've gotten past the couple of annoying obstacles with Hyper-V and remote management, Hyper-V is freaking awesome. It seems lightning fast.
The annoying thing for me is the versioning needed to manage hyper-v. Example: For Hyper-V 2016 you need a windows 10 machine to manage it.
No you don't.
You can pay for stuff to manage it, but I mean it doesn't automatically allow that
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@wirestyle22 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@tim_g said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@wirestyle22 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
I'll bring it back around and say that now that I've gotten past the couple of annoying obstacles with Hyper-V and remote management, Hyper-V is freaking awesome. It seems lightning fast.
The annoying thing for me is the versioning needed to manage hyper-v. Example: For Hyper-V 2016 you need a windows 10 machine to manage it.
No you don't.
You can pay for stuff to manage it, but I mean it doesn't automatically allow that
Windows 7+ with RSAT.
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@tim_g said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@wirestyle22 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@tim_g said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@wirestyle22 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dave247 said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@dashrender said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
@net-runner said in question about Hyper-V resource management?:
http://hv-manager.org/.https://i.imgur.com/zEE4HQh.png
At least you get 5 VMs, but the 5Nines gives you 6..
I'll bring it back around and say that now that I've gotten past the couple of annoying obstacles with Hyper-V and remote management, Hyper-V is freaking awesome. It seems lightning fast.
The annoying thing for me is the versioning needed to manage hyper-v. Example: For Hyper-V 2016 you need a windows 10 machine to manage it.
No you don't.
You can pay for stuff to manage it, but I mean it doesn't automatically allow that
Windows 7+ with RSAT.
I just did that at my last job and it didn't allow it
