FusionPBX benefits
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while it seems great that you want to promote FusionPBX, a poorly worded post from a brand new account is not a good thing.
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@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
Re: FusionPBX: implementing/using ??
Hi
Fusionpbx has a friendly irc channel mcrane( main developer) and others kindly answers questions, also there is new wiki at: link text and also there are many useful video tutorials on youtube.
For people wanting to try there is a straight forward install script at: link text
Fusionpbx is not just a Gui for powefull freeswitch IPPBX, it adds many feature to Freeswitch like: unlimited extensions, voicemail-to-email, music on hold, call parking, call center, call queues, phone provisioning and many other features. It provides the functionality your business needs and brings corporate level phone system features to small, medium and large businesses(multi-tenant).sigh
This isn't accurate at all. Fusion may do some things its own way but freeswitch has nearly all these features natively.
Its been argued and discussed several times here since I dug this project up and FreePBX is defintely more for the IT admin and FusionPBX is a starting point for a reseller business.
I have sent a lot of people from other discussion forums to Fusion and many have come back with endless questions to the point that they have signed up to resell ulingo.com services.
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Fusionpbx adds some features to freeswitch via lua scripts like:
Follow Me - Hot Desking - Call Block - Call Broadcast - Call Flows - Contacts
Fax Server - Ring Groups - Domain based Multi-Tenant - Time Conditions -
New Voicemail - Call Barge / Eavesdrop / Intercept - Attended Transfer -
Operator Panel - Dashboard - Powerful IPphone provisioning - Nice Call Detail records -
Call Recording - Nice Dialplan manager - Colorful web based log viewer and script editor -
Transactions Audit - Upgrade of source code and database via web
With "XML Handler" FreeSWITCH XML configuration files can be generated on
the fly from the FusionPBX database.(This increase performance in large installations and
make Freeswitch Multi server installation easier)
Windows installation (Freeswitch+Fusionpbx)
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@babak almost everything listed is native to freeswitch.
Something you might want to check out that is less expensive than FusionPBX training is www.brekeke.com MT Edition. You can get a 90 day trial and then it’s only like $1 per month per seat.
They also make some products that are used to expand large FreePBX deployments to support thousands of handsets (college campuses are common) to take sip registration off of the primary server.
Also fusion doesn’t load balance servers, it’s just a failover BDR, where opensips and Kamailio offer true redundancy.
Not sure what your goal is, are you looking for a solution?
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@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code? -
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?Provisioning has nothing to do with the PBX (Freeswitch). That is a supplemental fuction.
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@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
So you are looking for additional solutions to FusionPBX?
Third Lane has, by far, the best GUI I have seen, load balancing, and is inexpensive as far as I remember. https://www.thirdlane.com/
It is multi tenant and also has an impressive desktop app.
You may also like Sipwise CPBX https://www.sipwise.com/products/cpbx-for-enhanced-cloud-communications/
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
So you are looking for additional solutions to FusionPBX?
Third Lane has, by far, the best GUI I have seen, load balancing, and is inexpensive as far as I remember. https://www.thirdlane.com/
It is multi tenant and also has an impressive desktop app.
You may also like Sipwise CPBX https://www.sipwise.com/products/cpbx-for-enhanced-cloud-communications/
If both Freeswitch internal database and Fusionpbx database saved in postgresql and with BDR replicated , there is intelligence in Fusionpbx code that realize the destination extension registered in which server and makes a dialstring to destination server.Theoretically uptil 48 server but I agree Kamailio/Opensips have many advantages but still there is a smooth migration path,I think without any configuration change it is possible to insert opensips+ midregistrar module in front of BDRed Fusionpbx servers. Users and phones still provisioned in Fusionpbx and opensips load balancing traffic and also absorb 90% of registering signals.(still inter-server routing could be done with Fusionpbx es themself)
I like Sipwise Architecture specially it has an opensource version www.sipwise.org , sometimes I think is it possible to have same Sipwise Architecture but use Freeswitch as media proxy and b2ba ? -
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear
Because of my job I should know and evaluate different VOIP open source solutions for call center, Application server for services like customized ring back tone(for PSTN lines)...
Fusionpbx with DNS SRV and BDR is able to do both loadbalancing and High Availability.
Would you point me to Provisioning of IP phones like
Yealink, Polycom...or Hot desking or call Broadcast in Freeswitch code?The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
So you are looking for additional solutions to FusionPBX?
Third Lane has, by far, the best GUI I have seen, load balancing, and is inexpensive as far as I remember. https://www.thirdlane.com/
It is multi tenant and also has an impressive desktop app.
You may also like Sipwise CPBX https://www.sipwise.com/products/cpbx-for-enhanced-cloud-communications/
If both Freeswitch internal database and Fusionpbx database saved in postgresql and with BDR replicated , there is intelligence in Fusionpbx code that realize the destination extension registered in which server and makes a dialstring to destination server.Theoretically uptil 48 server but I agree Kamailio/Opensips have many advantages but still there is a smooth migration path,I think without any configuration change it is possible to insert opensips+ midregistrar module in front of BDRed Fusionpbx servers. Users and phones still provisioned in Fusionpbx and opensips load balancing traffic and also absorb 90% of registering signals.
I like Sipwise Architecture specially it has an opensource version www.sipwise.org , sometimes I think is it possible to have same Sipwise Architecture but use Freeswitch as media proxy and b2ba ?The other day there was a guy fresh out of training in IRC who was waxing poetic about how his no HA setup was still just a BDR. I understand the premise though.
Opensips and FusionPBX is a good combo. What about CouchDB so you dont have to mess with all the Sync...
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
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@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
FreePBX has HA, but honestly you want a softswitch or sip server to scale a PBX (Kamailio, OpenSips, Sipwise, Acme, Cardinal)
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@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source based on Asterisk) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help -
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help@babak I can appreciate the Fusion promo but no one here is likely to get Fusion training, just the wrong crowd. Lots of better places to promote.
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help@babak I can appreciate the Fusion promo but no one here is likely to get Fusion training, just the wrong crowd. Lots of better places to promote.
So for your answer about it is easy for HA in Fusionpbx I should tell if you know how to read source code and have enough time , it is not so hard
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@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
@babak said in FusionPBX benefits:
@tim_g said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
The two way sync of files and databases is hardly 'load balancing" Fusion needs Kamailio or Opensips to accomplish any REAL load balancing.
Does FreePBX have built in load balancing? Or is it easy to do in FusionPBX?
Or HA?
Not sure about Freepbx, I think there is a commercial module
In wazo project (also open source) there is HA solution
If you pass Fusionpbx training it should not be so hard and mcrane alwayes available in irc for help@babak I can appreciate the Fusion promo but no one here is likely to get Fusion training, just the wrong crowd. Lots of better places to promote.
So for your answer about it is easy for HA in Fusionpbx I should tell if you know how to read source code and have enough time , it is not so hard
I would say if you are deploying a solution that requires production level HA you should hire someone thats done it for 20 years.
I use Opensips for scale, and for a lot of other things, on top of whatever pbx engine.
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@bigbear almost everything listed is native to freeswitch.
FreeSWITCH doesn't have hot desking, device provisioning, operator panel, and all the other features that it does have are configured with XML. What FreeSWITCH has is a good tool box to make it possible to make all of those features.
@bigbear Also fusion doesn’t load balance servers, it’s just a failover BDR, where opensips and Kamailio offer true redundancy.
Load balancing is literally distributing the load and this can be done using multiple tools including but not limited to OpenSIPs and Kamailio but because FusionPBX is domain based multi-tenant system that usually has multiple domains and therefore load can also be distributed with DNS SRV, Smart DNS, multiple outbound proxies and more.
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@jaredbusch English is not babak's native language.
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@markjcrane said in FusionPBX benefits:
@bigbear almost everything listed is native to freeswitch.
FreeSWITCH doesn't have hot desking, device provisioning, operator panel, and all the other features that it does have have to be configured with XML. What FreeSWITCH has is a good tool box to make it possible to make all of those features.
@bigbear Also fusion doesn’t load balance servers, it’s just a failover BDR, where opensips and Kamailio offer true redundancy.
Load balancing is literally distributing the load and this can be done using multiple tools including but not limited to OpenSIPs and Kamailio but because FusionPBX is domain based multi-tenant system that usually has multiple domains and therefore load can also be distributed with DNS SRV, Smart DNS, multiple outbound proxies and more.
heavy heavy sigh
I don’t think the current iteration of fusion operator panel is a real factor in anyone’s decision making process tbh Mark.
And I don’t think dns srv records and the current sync setup you are describing compares on any level to opensips.
No ones bashing fusion, were just getting this commercial here today out of the blue and I don’t know what’s behind it.
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@bigbear said in FusionPBX benefits:
I don’t think dns srv records and the current sync setup you are describing compares on any level to opensips.
No but they do provide a level of load balancing. Can you do more with openSIPS or Kamailio definitely.
No ones bashing fusion, were just getting this commercial here today out of the blue and I don’t know what’s behind it.
I did not start the post. I'm simply responding to the conversation that is here.
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Off to third day thanksgiving dinner, cheers to all...
